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David Pescovitz is a former research director at Institute for the Future and a former editor at Boing Boing and Wired Magazine. Rushkoff and Pescovitz explore the characteristics of innovative people, simulation theory, and the importance of wonder in a conversation originally aired on WFMU's The Media Squat. You can access the full conversation now by becoming a contributing supporter at patreon.com/teamhuman. Get bonus content on Patreon

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