In this episode we chat about "Forever Winter" from "RED: Taylor's Version (From the Vault.") We talk about how much we love this song and how it is completely heartbreaking. We also discuss the unfortunate relatability of it.

Content Warning: In this episode we discuss depression, mental illness, and suicide.

If you’re thinking about suicide, are worried about a friend or loved one, or would like emotional support, the Suicide Prevention Lifeline provides 24/7 free and confidential support across the United States. You can call 1-800-273-8255 or text 741741. The Trevor Project also has a 24/7 crisis line that can be reached at 1-866-488-7386  or via text at 678678. For our international listeners, you can go to findahelpline.com and they have a function where you can find a helpline based on what country you reside in.

Hosts: Devin and Gab

Sound Design: Devin Johnson-Nieporent and Peter Leigh-Nilsen

Theme Song: Devin Johnson-Nieporent, Peter Leigh-Nilsen, and Eric Johnson

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