In this episode I’m joined by Mike Kokal of the End of the Road podcast. He interviewed me a while back, click here to listen. I’ve been a fan of his podcast ever since and have been thoroughly enjoying his diverse and holistic array of guests and content. I invited him on the podcast to talk about his approach to modern trends of crypto and psychdelics as a lawyer. He offered a lot of important insight into how the system works and how we can improve and transcend its current form. He shares a holistic and balanced perspective on a wide range of controversial issues. I was grateful for his help to refine some of my hopes and visions for the future.

About Mike:

Mike Kokal is the host of the End of the Road Podcast which showcases an eclectic mix of guests working with ordinary and non-ordinary states of consciousness in the finite playground we all find ourselves in: “The Horizons we strive to touch but are already there.”

Mike is also practices civil litigation and is a patent attorney. His professional bio can be found at: https://secure.heylroyster.com/attorneys/details.cfm?attorneyID=90

The End of the Road Podcast, which is nearing 100 episodes, can be found here are wherever you listen to podcasts: https://endoftheroad.libsyn.com/