Listen in as I chat to Dr Farah Palmer about her journey from Piopio College to Otago University to Associate Dean, Māori, at Massey University's Business School. 

We chat about her passions -  Māori rugby, women in rugby and community rugby.

We hear how she navigates the boardroom as Deputy Chair of  the New Zealand Rugby Board and as Chair of the Māori Rugby Board.

And we hear her recollection of her part in New Zealand's successful bid to host the Rugby World Cup 2022.