On this podcast, I talked with T. S. Flanders of 'The Meaning of Catholic' about the history of Africans in the Americas, beginning with the first Africans in New Spain, France, and the English colonies, to the 2nd Civil War in America (1861-65), the Jim Crow era (1865-1965) to the present. This was a broad conversation that explored some topics more in-depth than others and offers a compelling narrative about how the history of Africans and their descendants in American cannot be told outside the history of Black Catholicism in America.


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