Talk Heathen 07.10 03-12-23 with Secular Rarity and Richard Gilliver

In today’s episodeHello of the Talk Heathen, Secular Rarity is joined by Richard Gilliver who will sort through topics of Jesus proof, gravity not existing, giving up god for Lent, theist-atheist relationships and wokeism.
First caller is Clark in CA who claims that necessary conditions can’t be accounted for under naturalism because there are conjunctions with two inconsistent propositions. That natural world is what we have and what we can measure. Do you have a demonstration of your system that counters the natural world? Why should we accept idealism as the alternative? What is the relation of idealism to reality? Premises like this need supporting evidence, not just assertions.
Mark from TX asks the hosts what evidence would be required for atheists to believe in Jesus. It is first important to understand that not everyone in the world has the same systems. We must establish if god is possible, and then which god. Sufficient evidence that is not necessarily specific, is what would be required. We would like to see the best piece of evidence.
Chuck in HI claims that whatever holds the universe together is scientific proof of god, and there is no such thing as gravity. There are physicists that can explain the collection of matter and what makes up the universe. Before dismissing something you don’t understand, take a closer look at the science you don’t agree with, and call back.
Hannah in PA is a Sunday school teacher that is considering giving up god for Lent as she goes through the deconstruction process. This could be a chance to soften some of the crucial elements that cause harm. You are not responsible for these young people, however, if you are questioning your faith, you don’t want to put yourself in a position of culpability by placing seeds of doubt to the children. You must care for yourself first and foremost and can benefit by contacting Recovering From Religion.
Shawn in MO is an atheist who feels that a theist/atheist relationship would be uncomfortable. Relationships of all kinds are not perfect in every circumstance. If you meet someone that happens to be religious, just be honest with that person to begin with. It is okay to have a different preference than somebody else because it is a partnership between the people involved. If you meet someone that is super hot and find out they are religious, so what?
Alok in CA believes that wokeism overlaps with atheism. When people stop passing laws that put people in jail for drag shows, then we will stop talking about it. Hearing the word “woke” now usually comes from people who want to attack others for their identities. Caring for people is not woke; it is simply caring for people.

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