Van turns the tables on Marlon and puts him in the “Complicated Corner.” They talk about living a life that isn’t fulfilling through the lens of pastors who realize that they aren’t being called to serve as a leader of a church. And they get... Read More

Van turns the tables on Marlon and puts him in the “Complicated Corner.” They talk about living a life that isn’t fulfilling through the lens of pastors who realize that they aren’t being called to serve as a leader of a church. And they get into a deeper spiritual discussion than they intended. Get ready to dig into the spiritual muck.


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