On today's episode, we talk with Walter B J Mitchell and Joe Comeau - The Cardinal Rule about their fun social experiment around sports fandoms, and people being optimistic or pessimistic. I also discuss the changing of generations around sports fandoms in the 2020s and labor negotiations in the NFL. We also talk about sports fandoms and expectations, and how much fun I have rooting for losers in my life. Also, why football for a fan isn't all about winning and losing the way impacting a team isn't the same


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