No matter how many tools you have in your sales toolkit, if you don’t know how to be present in that conversation, you still won’t get much from it. That is Judy Hoberman’s secret sauce that helps people be more productive, engaging, and sell more. In this episode, she sits down with Penny Zenker to take us deeper into the power of presence during conversations and other important situations—be that in sales or in building relationships in general. As an award-winning international speaker, bestselling author, and leading authority on women in leadership, Judy has the extensive wisdom to help us become better at sales. She shares some key sales questions, body language pointers, and learning to be intentional. Tune into this great conversation and find how it’s a lot simpler than it actually is. Cut through the complexity with Judy and Penny.


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