We sit down again with Victor Cha, Professor at Georgetown University and Senior Vice President at CSIS, for an update on what we know, suspect, and do not know about a North Korea still in extreme isolation from the rest of the world; the status of its Covid outbreak and response; the heightened risk of famine; and the burgeoning exchange of North Korean weapons and ammunition in return for Russian food and energy. A narrow reopening with China is underway, while the continued high pace of missile launches is unnerving much of the world and is crowding out humanitarian considerations. The international presence inside North Korea remains miniscule. How might this isolation be cracked? Give a listen.