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The X-Ray

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Political power: Who wants it? Who wields it? And why? Through compelling conversations with power players, newsmakers, and experts, The X-Ray answers these questions, providing listeners with insightful analysis of the biggest issues facing our democracy at home and abroad.

The X-Ray is brought to you by Issue One, producers of the Swamp Stories podcast.

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Mom Against the Machine

August 10, 2023 09:00 - 23 minutes - 21.1 MB

Her vibrant son was driven to suicide by a relentless barrage of social media bullying. Carson Bride was like millions of American kids in the age of social apps: vulnerable to the algorithms that drive profitable engagement regardless of the psychological devastation they may cause.  In our final episode of the season, Fernando speaks with Carson’s mom, Kristin Bride. She is on a mission to hold the mighty social media platforms accountable for the harms posed to young people. A member of ...

¡Two Amigos!

August 03, 2023 09:00 - 26 minutes - 24.1 MB

The United States’ success as a country, the consolidation of democracy, its ability to conquer a continent and then project massive power across the world, is due in part to its relationship with Latin America. As the polymath author of the seminal book Guns, Germs and Steel Jared Diamond explained, geography is destiny. And the United States’ southern border, unlike those of France or Germany, for example, that have gone to war time and again, has created an unprecedented multi-century hi...

What’s Wrong with Congress?

July 20, 2023 09:00 - 28 minutes - 26 MB

Why do most Americans strongly disapprove of Congress? It’s complicated. Addiction to power, fame, and money has always been part of Congress’ ick factor and the brutal politics of our era create all sorts of perverse incentives for members to cosplay TV stars. But is there something deeper going on? Is Congress broken forever? Fernando hunts for an answer with Dr. Kevin Kosar, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute studying the US Congress. He previously worked at the Congres...

Jonathan Greenblatt: White Nationalist Danger

July 13, 2023 09:00 - 29 minutes - 26.8 MB

The 2017 neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville was a coming out party for the extreme-right movement. From that ugly debut, white nationalist groups are now literally marching across the country. Most recently in East Cobb, Georgia, Jewish worshippers were terrorized at a synagogue by swastika brandishing thugs. With a jump in attacks against ethnic, religious, and sexual minorities, the FBI’s far-right domestic terrorism warning sadly came true. White nationalism is now a clear and present dang...

Héctor Tobar: Decoding Latinos

July 06, 2023 09:00 - 36 minutes - 33.8 MB

Latino voter participation jumped dramatically in the last two elections — yet the Washington DC political class seems pretty clueless about these voters. And if the surprising midterm results are a real trend, the Latino vote is in play for both parties. How effectively Democrats and Republicans persuade — or repel — Latinos could very well determine the winner of the presidency in 2024. To help dispel the big mystery about these voters, Fernando gets into it with Pulitzer Prize-winning jo...

Admiral Mike Rogers: From Russia with Chaos

June 29, 2023 09:00 - 48 minutes - 44.4 MB

The Ukraine war took an unexpected turn — into Russia. The spectacular march on Moscow by Vladimir Putin’s rebellious henchman exposed the strongman’s surprising weakness. During these dramatic events, the Russian nuclear superpower teetered on the edge of chaos. And as America ramps up support for Ukraine, an unstable Russia is now an even bigger threat to the global democratic order. Fernando is joined by Admiral Mike Rogers who unravels the web of Ukraine war politics, shedding light on ...

Supremely Unpopular

June 22, 2023 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34.4 MB

A majority of Americans increasingly question the Supreme Court’s authority. Deeply controversial decisions have sparked public outrage, raising concerns about the Court’s legitimacy and its outsized impact on American democracy. Fernando digs into the Court’s growing unpopularity with Michael Waldman, president and CEO of the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law. Waldman is a constitutional lawyer and expert on the presidency and American democracy. His latest book is The Superm...

A.B. Stoddard: The Republic Strikes Back

June 15, 2023 09:00 - 51 minutes - 47.3 MB

There’s no doubt that the latest indictment of Donald Trump has shaken the American political system. The twice impeached, twice arrested former president is the dominant force in today’s Republican Party. In this bizarre situation with no historical precedent, American democracy hangs in the balance. On this week’s episode, Fernando digs into the indictment’s profound consequences for 2024 and the republic with award winning political journalist A.B. Stoddard. Stoddard is associate editor ...

Simon Rosenberg: Surveying the Scene

June 08, 2023 09:00 - 42 minutes - 38.6 MB

As the 2024 election comes into focus, Democrats are gnashing their teeth with worry. Will President Joe Biden have the momentum to win a second term as America’s democracy is threatened? On the Republican aisle, the MAGA and GOP Classic wings of the party fight in Congress while worrying about the viability of both former President Donald Trump and the party’s would-be rescuer, Governor Ron DeSantis. It’s high anxiety time in DC. On this week’s episode, Fernando chats with political strate...

Simon Rosenberg: The Case for Biden

June 08, 2023 09:00 - 42 minutes - 38.6 MB

As the 2024 election comes into focus, Democrats are gnashing their teeth with worry. Will President Joe Biden have the momentum to win a second term as America’s democracy is threatened? On the Republican aisle, the MAGA and GOP Classic wings of the party fight in Congress while worrying about the viability of both former President Donald Trump and the party’s would-be rescuer, Governor Ron DeSantis. It’s high anxiety time in DC. On this week’s episode, Fernando chats with political strate...

Circus Politics: The Debt Ceiling Showdown

June 01, 2023 09:00 - 36 minutes - 33.2 MB

With the resolution of the debt ceiling crisis in sight, we’re asking the key question – just what did Americans get for all the fire-breathing threats to drive the country into a catastrophic default? Fernando speaks with freshman Congressman Seth Magaziner (D-RI) to find out how this madness looks from inside the tent, through the eyes of someone who only recently joined the circus on Capitol Hill. And on our special X-Ray Vision segment, an exploration of the real person behind the titl...

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse: Supreme Peril

May 25, 2023 09:00 - 21 minutes - 19.9 MB

The drip-drip of revelations surrounding Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is sabotaging the legitimacy of the nation’s highest court. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in luxury gifts have gone undisclosed. It’s a troubling pattern of shady behavior at an institution that is considered a cornerstone of American democracy. U.S. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), a longtime critic of the Supreme Court’s approach to policing itself, joins Fernando for an eye-opening conversation about the ...

Leon Panetta: Putin is Defeating Himself

May 18, 2023 09:00 - 22 minutes - 20.4 MB

Two drones explode over the Kremlin. Giant fuel depots blow up in occupied Crimea. Mysterious detonations hit several cities deep in Russia. Are these the first attacks in Ukraine’s much anticipated spring counteroffensive? Will this campaign finally start liberating Ukraine from Vladimir Putin’s bloody invasion? And why should Americans care about yet another war in a faraway nation? Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta joins Fernando for a reality check – is Ukraine and its allie...

Fear and Loathing in Washington: The Debt Ceiling

May 11, 2023 09:00 - 29 minutes - 26.8 MB

Here we go again. Congress is facing a June 1 deadline to avoid a totally preventable “debt ceiling” crisis. If no one flinches in this dangerous game of chicken, the U.S. economy will be dragged into a cataclysm, destroying America’s global reputation and unleashing unfathomable pain for every American family. An artifact from World War I, the debt ceiling comes back every few years to provide existential drama — the battlefield of partisan politics. It all sounds a bit insane, but it’s on...

Andrew Yang Leaps Forward – Will He Land?

May 04, 2023 09:00 - 26 minutes - 24.7 MB

Andrew Yang is at it again. Starting with his debut on the national stage in the 2020 presidential election, the entrepreneur without government experience jumped into the political arena with a fresh message and camera-ready charisma. And though he lost his quest for the presidency, he gained a national following and reputation for deep thoughts. Now, Yang is taking another big leap — creating a new political party that wants to inject more democracy and accountability into our sometimes s...

Biden’s Running & Michael Steele Wants a Word

April 27, 2023 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

The wait is over – President Joe Biden has announced his reelection campaign. Dispelling any lingering doubts that he would step back from the arena, Biden is again on a collision course with former President Donald Trump. Is this a rematch of 2020 or are we going to see a new dynamic framed by the spiraling culture war, the other war in Ukraine, and Trump’s escalating legal problems? And what happens now to Ron DeSantis and the other GOP hopefuls that aspire to move into the White House? Fo...

It’s Donald Trump’s Party, Again

April 20, 2023 09:00 - 26 minutes - 24 MB

Like a party guest that won’t leave, Donald Trump is the rare losing presidential candidate that is making another run at the White House. Twice impeached and now indicted, Trump is nevertheless the favorite candidate to win the Republican nomination, according to recent polls. But what does this mean for our political system overall? And what’s the impact on a divided Republican Party? Former Rep. Reid Ribble (R-WI) joins Fernando for a conversation about the future of the Republican Party ...

The Rise of "Fortress MAGA"

April 13, 2023 09:00 - 25 minutes - 23 MB

Since Donald Trump entered the presidential race in 2015, his MAGA movement has grown exponentially, attracting millions of fervent followers and directly influencing political leaders across the country. In this episode of The X-Ray, Fernando and Greg Sargent, an opinion columnist at The Washington Post who covers national politics, have a wide-ranging conversation about Trump’s movement, analyzing what Greg calls "the Fortress MAGA phenomenon." They also dig deep into recent political deve...

The “Righteous” Indictment of Donald Trump

April 03, 2023 15:55 - 14 minutes - 13.3 MB

When Donald Trump is arrested and formally charged this Tuesday for alleged crimes in New York, it will be a historic spectacle. As we all know, no U.S. president or former president has ever been charged with a crime. This unprecedented event puts the nation in uncharted, and some say, dangerous territory. To understand what this all really means, and what we can expect after Donald Trump’s historic day in court, Fernando speaks with Norm Eisen, one of Washington’s most respected legal expe...

Facebook Whistleblower Sounds the Alarm

March 30, 2023 09:00 - 27 minutes - 25.5 MB

No one has done more to expose social media‘s threat to democracy than Frances Haugen, globally famous as the Facebook Whistleblower. Frances exposed how Facebook’s secret algorithms generated engagement by stoking hate, division, conspiracy theories and sometimes even violence.  Fernando and Frances discuss the risks social media poses to our democracy, the unique power of algorithms that shape human perception, and the ongoing risk these platforms present to a successful, democratic 2024 e...

Biden vs. Trump — Again?

March 23, 2023 09:00 - 49 minutes - 45.2 MB

In a deep dive into the beginning stages of the 2024 election, Fernando talks with Sarah Longwell about the candidates and their prospects, and what voters are thinking. They discuss the increasingly aggressive battle between Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, and the lack of voter excitement for other candidates. They also examine Democratic prospects, identifying some big challenges ahead for the president’s re-election campaign. Join us for a fun, wide-ranging conversation about the emerging ...

Is the rise of authoritarianism in America real?

March 23, 2023 09:00 - 54 minutes - 49.8 MB

Is the rise of authoritarianism in America real? Is democracy at risk? Just a few years ago, this would have been ridiculous. But after the rise of Donald Trump and the January 6 insurrection, fascism is no longer an old idea from history, some experts say it is a clear and present danger. Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of the bestseller “Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present,” joins Fernando for a fascinating exploration of authoritarianism in the U.S. – its rising menace and what we can do abou...

Trailer: The X-Ray with Fernando Espuelas

March 13, 2023 18:49 - 1 minute - 991 KB

Introducing The X-Ray with Fernando Espuelas — a new podcast with a fresh take on political power: Who wants it? Who wields it? And why? Through compelling conversations with newsmakers, power players, and experts, The X-Ray answers these questions, providing listeners with insightful analysis of the biggest issues facing our democracy at home and abroad. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram! For more information, check out thexra...

This Isn't Swamp Stories...

March 02, 2023 17:00 - 58 seconds - 924 KB

After two years and nearly 50 episodes, Swamp Stories host Weston Wamp started a new chapter in his life. So we’re launching an awesome new show — The X-Ray, which will feature fresh conversations with some of the biggest newsmakers about challenges facing democracy — at home and abroad. We hope you'll join us every week on The X-Ray. Look for our first episodes dropping soon!

[Swamp Stories] 46. Farewell to Weston

December 14, 2022 13:00 - 30 minutes - 28 MB

As season two of "Swamp Stories" comes to a close, so does Weston's time as host of the show. After nearly 50 episodes that cover a wide range of national democracy reform topics, Weston has turned his sights back home to Tennessee. He was recently sworn in as the mayor of Hamilton County, the state's fourth largest county. For Weston's final episode, he sat down with Issue One's Chief of Strategy and Program Ethan Rome to reflect on what led him to the political reform space, what it's be...

46. Farewell to Weston

December 14, 2022 13:00 - 30 minutes - 28 MB

As season two of "Swamp Stories" comes to a close, so does Weston's time as host of the show. After nearly 50 episodes that cover a wide range of national democracy reform topics, Weston has turned his sights back home to Tennessee. He was recently sworn in as the mayor of Hamilton County, the state's fourth largest county. For Weston's final episode, he sat down with Issue One's Chief of Strategy and Program Ethan Rome to reflect on what led him to the political reform space, what it's be...

[Swamp Stories] 45. Debunking "2000 Mules"

November 17, 2022 13:00 - 14 minutes - 12.9 MB

During the 2022 midterm elections, in many of the most competitive, high-profile races, Americans rejected election denialism. But it’s also still true that many people have lost trust in our elections. That is because former President Trump and his allies have spent more than two years spreading lies that the 2020 election was “stolen.” Upon its release in May 2022, a film entitled “2000 Mules” became a dangerous new catalyst for spreading lies about that election. In the latest “Swamp Sto...

45. Debunking "2000 Mules"

November 17, 2022 13:00 - 14 minutes - 12.9 MB

During the 2022 midterm elections, in many of the most competitive, high-profile races, Americans rejected election denialism. But it’s also still true that many people have lost trust in our elections. That is because former President Trump and his allies have spent more than two years spreading lies that the 2020 election was “stolen.” Upon its release in May 2022, a film entitled “2000 Mules” became a dangerous new catalyst for spreading lies about that election. In the latest “Swamp Sto...

[Swamp Stories] 44. Conversations: Former Amb. Tim Roemer and Former Rep. Zach Wamp

October 04, 2022 16:32 - 17 minutes - 16.4 MB

This year, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has spent millions of dollars boosting election denier candidates in GOP primaries across the country in the gamble that they will be easier for Democrats to beat this November. Many have denounced this tactic as dangerous, including some Democratic Party members, former elected officials who are bucking their party and condemning the practice. On episode 44 of “Swamp Stories,” Weston chats with two co-chairs of Issue One’s ReForme...

44. Conversations: Former Amb. Tim Roemer and Former Rep. Zach Wamp

October 04, 2022 16:32 - 17 minutes - 16.4 MB

This year, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has spent millions of dollars boosting election denier candidates in GOP primaries across the country in the gamble that they will be easier for Democrats to beat this November. Many have denounced this tactic as dangerous, including some Democratic Party members, former elected officials who are bucking their party and condemning the practice. On episode 44 of “Swamp Stories,” Weston chats with two co-chairs of Issue One’s ReForme...

[Swamp Stories] 43. Conversations: Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott

August 15, 2022 19:48 - 10 minutes - 9.43 MB

In the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election, it became clear that the Electoral Count Act of 1887, the legislation that provides the framework governing the casting and counting of electoral votes, needed updating because of its arcane language and ambiguities that could be exploited by bad actors willing to overturn the will of the people In stepped a bipartisan group of senators, and, after months of negotiating, a deal was struck. Last month, the Electoral Count Reform and Preside...

43. Conversations: Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott

August 15, 2022 19:48 - 10 minutes - 9.43 MB

In the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election, it became clear that the Electoral Count Act of 1887, the legislation that provides the framework governing the casting and counting of electoral votes, needed updating because of its arcane language and ambiguities that could be exploited by bad actors willing to overturn the will of the people In stepped a bipartisan group of senators, and, after months of negotiating, a deal was struck. Last month, the Electoral Count Reform and Preside...

[Swamp Stories] 42. A Roundtable with the Faces of Democracy

July 27, 2022 18:36 - 48 minutes - 44.5 MB

Election officials and poll workers are our friends, family, and neighbors. They are dedicated workers who manage a vital part of our democratic infrastructure.  But because of a massive election disinformation campaign led by former President Trump and his allies, they have become the target of threats, intimidation, and harassment — adding to their already challenging job. “Swamp Stories” host Weston Wamp sat down with a few of the election workers — local election officials and a poll w...

42. A Roundtable with the Faces of Democracy

July 27, 2022 18:36 - 48 minutes - 44.5 MB

Election officials and poll workers are our friends, family, and neighbors. They are dedicated workers who manage a vital part of our democratic infrastructure.  But because of a massive election disinformation campaign led by former President Trump and his allies, they have become the target of threats, intimidation, and harassment — adding to their already challenging job. “Swamp Stories” host Weston Wamp sat down with a few of the election workers — local election officials and a poll w...

[Swamp Stories] 41. Zuckerbucks

July 01, 2022 14:07 - 16 minutes - 15.1 MB

The 2020 election season, while carried out successfully by dedicated election officials and poll workers, exposed one glaring problem with the U.S. system of elections: it is chronically underfunded. Though Congress allocated $400 million for election assistance during the COVID-19 pandemic, it was far short of what experts and election administrators said was needed to pull off an election in a pandemic. Private philanthropy, from folks like Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan, stepped in ...

41. Zuckerbucks

July 01, 2022 14:07 - 16 minutes - 22.7 MB

The 2020 election season, while carried out successfully by dedicated election officials and poll workers, exposed one glaring problem with the U.S. system of elections: it is chronically underfunded. Though Congress allocated $400 million for election assistance during the COVID-19 pandemic, it was far short of what experts and election administrators said was needed to pull off an election in a pandemic. Private philanthropy, from folks like Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan, stepped in ...

[Swamp Stories] January 6th Committee Hearing Debrief with Former Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt

June 21, 2022 16:44 - 11 minutes - 10.6 MB

Over the next few weeks, the bipartisan House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is holding a series of historic hearings to shed light on the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021. During the hearings, we are hosting a special series of “Swamp Stories” to bring listeners in-depth analysis by some of the country’s leading political experts on what we are learning and how the country is reacting. In the third episode of the series, host...

January 6th Committee Hearing Debrief with Former Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt

June 21, 2022 16:44 - 11 minutes - 15.9 MB

Over the next few weeks, the bipartisan House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is holding a series of historic hearings to shed light on the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021. During the hearings, we are hosting a special series of “Swamp Stories” to bring listeners in-depth analysis by some of the country’s leading political experts on what we are learning and how the country is reacting. In the third episode of the series, host...

[Swamp Stories] January 6th Committee Hearing Debrief with Former Rep. Reid Ribble

June 17, 2022 17:24 - 10 minutes - 9.26 MB

Over the next few weeks, the bipartisan House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is holding a series of historic hearings to shed light on the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021. During the hearings, we are hosting a special series of “Swamp Stories” to bring listeners in-depth analysis by some of the country’s leading political experts on what we are learning and how the country is reacting. In the second episode of the series, hos...

January 6th Committee Hearing Debrief with Former Rep. Reid Ribble

June 17, 2022 17:24 - 10 minutes - 13.9 MB

Over the next few weeks, the bipartisan House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is holding a series of historic hearings to shed light on the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021. During the hearings, we are hosting a special series of “Swamp Stories” to bring listeners in-depth analysis by some of the country’s leading political experts on what we are learning and how the country is reacting. In the second episode of the series, hos...

January 6th Committee Hearing Debrief with Former House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt

June 11, 2022 00:22 - 18 minutes - 25 MB

Over the next few weeks, the bipartisan House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is holding a series of historic hearings to shed light on the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021. During the hearings, we are hosting a special series of “Swamp Stories” to bring listeners in-depth analysis by some of the country’s leading political experts on what we are learning and how the country is reacting. In the first episode of the series, host...

[Swamp Stories] January 6th Committee Hearing Debrief with Former House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt

June 11, 2022 00:22 - 18 minutes - 16.6 MB

Over the next few weeks, the bipartisan House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is holding a series of historic hearings to shed light on the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021. During the hearings, we are hosting a special series of “Swamp Stories” to bring listeners in-depth analysis by some of the country’s leading political experts on what we are learning and how the country is reacting. In the first episode of the series, host...

[Swamp Stories] 40. Conversations: Former Rep. Carlos Curbelo

May 09, 2022 12:00 - 27 minutes - 25.6 MB

In episode 40 of our “Swamp Stories” podcast, Weston talks with former Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-FL) — who currently sits on the board of directors of Issue One and is a member of Issue One’s National Council on Election Integrity and ReFormers Caucus — about how he became involved in politics, pushing back against lies that the 2020 election was stolen, and why standing up for the rule of law, our elections, and democratic institutions matters. This is the seventh episode in our periodic seri...

40. Conversations: Former Rep. Carlos Curbelo

May 09, 2022 12:00 - 27 minutes - 38.3 MB

In episode 40 of our “Swamp Stories” podcast, Weston talks with former Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-FL) — who currently sits on the board of directors of Issue One and is a member of Issue One’s National Council on Election Integrity and ReFormers Caucus — about how he became involved in politics, pushing back against lies that the 2020 election was stolen, and why standing up for the rule of law, our elections, and democratic institutions matters. This is the seventh episode in our periodic seri...

[Swamp Stories] 39. Making Outrage Addictive

April 13, 2022 17:30 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MB

Social media has become a part of our daily lives, as we scroll endlessly through curated feeds. But it’s clear that these platforms are having a negative impact on our lives and our society in ways we never imagined. Platforms that were once a way to connect people have become a place where disinformation flows freely, controversy and division turns a profit, and people are pushed into echo chambers where everyone believes the same things and get fed disinformation that amps up their views...

39. Making Outrage Addictive

April 13, 2022 17:30 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MB

Social media has become a part of our daily lives, as we scroll endlessly through curated feeds. But it’s clear that these platforms are having a negative impact on our lives and our society in ways we never imagined. Platforms that were once a way to connect people have become a place where disinformation flows freely, controversy and division turns a profit, and people are pushed into echo chambers where everyone believes the same things and get fed disinformation that amps up their views...

38. Protecting Our Neighbors

March 11, 2022 19:37 - 13 minutes - 12 MB

Elections across the country are run by dedicated full-time elected officials and by a huge and diverse group of citizens who serve as poll workers — people who might very well be your neighbors, your teacher, or your child’s baseball coach. These folks are the backbone of our elections system, and are the reason that the 2020 election went so smoothly and was called the “most secure election in American history” with the highest turnout in over a century. But since Election Day in 2020 — a...

[Swamp Stories] 38. Protecting Our Neighbors

March 11, 2022 19:37 - 13 minutes - 12 MB

Elections across the country are run by dedicated full-time elected officials and by a huge and diverse group of citizens who serve as poll workers — people who might very well be your neighbors, your teacher, or your child’s baseball coach. These folks are the backbone of our elections system, and are the reason that the 2020 election went so smoothly and was called the “most secure election in American history” with the highest turnout in over a century. But since Election Day in 2020 — a...

37. Conversations: Mark Bowden & Matthew Teague

February 22, 2022 13:05 - 28 minutes - 25.9 MB

In episode 37 of “Swamp Stories,” Weston talks with Mark Bowden — author of “Black Hawk Down” — and Matthew Teague about their new book, “The Steal,” that offers a week-by-week, state-by-state account of the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. In addition to what they reveal about what happened behind the scenes, they discuss how to prevent what happened in 2020 from happening again and who the heroes and heroines were that helped stop the efforts to overturn the will of the p...

[Swamp Stories] 37. Conversations: Mark Bowden & Matthew Teague

February 22, 2022 13:05 - 28 minutes - 25.9 MB

In episode 37 of “Swamp Stories,” Weston talks with Mark Bowden — author of “Black Hawk Down” — and Matthew Teague about their new book, “The Steal,” that offers a week-by-week, state-by-state account of the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. In addition to what they reveal about what happened behind the scenes, they discuss how to prevent what happened in 2020 from happening again and who the heroes and heroines were that helped stop the efforts to overturn the will of the p...

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