Robert and Samuel get into Jobs to be Done Switch Interviews and how they compare with Customer Development.


Chris Spiek & Bob Moesta have a JTBD Udemy course and a podcast.


Patrick Vlaskovits and Brant Cooper wrote The Entrepreneur's Guide To Customer Development


Steve Blank wrote an updated version of the Four Steps. Check out The Startup Owner's Manual


Our friend Rob Walling founded Drip and we talked about his move up market in email.


WE MENTION Fake Grimlock. HIM GOOD.


Shots fired at The Fizzle Show. Hi, Chase Reeves!


Integrating Around The Job-To-Be-Done by Clayton M. Christensen has since been read and enjoyed by Robert. Highly recommended.


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