“Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East vs. West” – with Calder Walton
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Summary
Calder Walton (Website, Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the 100-year intelligence war between the United States and Russia. Calder is the author of the new book, SPIES.
*EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The epic clash of intelligence systems
Russia’s assassination program then and now
The roots of Putinism
China as “the Soviet Union on steroids”
Reflections
Cold War 2.0
Could it have been otherwise?
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
My conclusion, unfortunately, Andrew, is that looking at this large sweep of history that we have, not so much a Putin problem today, but a Russia problem. And the Russia problem has been persistent over a hundred years, which is why it makes me very cautious about speculation … Unfortunately, it seems to me that the Putin and the people he surrounds himself with in the Kremlin are all cut from this very similar cloth as he is.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Headline Resource*
SPIES: The Epic Intelligence War Between East and West, Calder Walton (Simon & Schuster, 2023)
*SpyCasts*
Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)
Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023)
Becoming a Russian Intelligence Officer with Janosh Neumann (2022)
The Spies Who Came in From the Cold with Chris Costa and John Quattrocki at the Pritzker Military Museum & Library in Chicago (2022)
Dealing with Russia with Counterintelligence Legend Jim Olson (2022)
CIA Legend Jack Devine on Countering Russian Aggression (2012)
*Beginner Resources*
Putin’s Revisionist History of Russia and Ukraine, I. Chotiner, New Yorker (2022) [Short article]
Has Putin's war failed and what does Russia want?, P. Kirby, BBC (2023) [Short article]
The Cold War Explained in 15 Minutes, YouTube (2021) [15 min. video]
*EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*
DEEPER DIVE
Books
Russian Intelligence, K. Riehle (NIU, 2022)
Putin’s People, C. Belton (William Collins, 2021)
Between Two Fires, J. Yaffa (Duggan Books, 2020)
The New Cold War, E. Lucas (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2014)
Primary Sources
The Putin Files, CBS (n.d.)
Memorandum of Conversations (Rise of Putin)
Clinton with Putin (2000)
Clinton with Putin (2000)
Clinton with Yeltsin (1999)
Clinton with Yeltsin (1999)
Clinton with Putin (1999)
Madelaine Albright with Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov (1999)
Clinton with Putin (1999)
Clinton with Yeltsin (1999)
Oral Histories
U.S. Ambassadors to Moscow
John Huntsman (2017-2019)
John F. Tefft (2014-2017)
Michael McFaul (2012-2014)
John Beryle (2008-2012)
Alexander Vershbow (2001-2005)
James F. Collins (1997-2001)
Thomas R. Pickering (1993-1996)
Jack F. Matlock (1987-1991)
*Wildcard Resource*
Putin Strikes: The Coming War for Eastern Europe
A two-player board game where one commands the Kremlin’s forces and the other an international polyglot force. Trippy or what?
*EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*
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Summary
Calder Walton (Website, Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the 100-year intelligence war between the United States and Russia. Calder is the author of the new book, SPIES.
*EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*The epic clash of intelligence systems
Russia’s assassination program then and now
The roots of Putinism
China as “the Soviet Union on steroids”
Reflections
Cold War 2.0
Could it have been otherwise?
And much, much more …
My conclusion, unfortunately, Andrew, is that looking at this large sweep of history that we have, not so much a Putin problem today, but a Russia problem. And the Russia problem has been persistent over a hundred years, which is why it makes me very cautious about speculation … Unfortunately, it seems to me that the Putin and the people he surrounds himself with in the Kremlin are all cut from this very similar cloth as he is.
SPIES: The Epic Intelligence War Between East and West, Calder Walton (Simon & Schuster, 2023)*SpyCasts*
Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)
Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023)
Becoming a Russian Intelligence Officer with Janosh Neumann (2022)
The Spies Who Came in From the Cold with Chris Costa and John Quattrocki at the Pritzker Military Museum & Library in Chicago (2022)
Dealing with Russia with Counterintelligence Legend Jim Olson (2022)
CIA Legend Jack Devine on Countering Russian Aggression (2012)
*Beginner Resources*
Putin’s Revisionist History of Russia and Ukraine, I. Chotiner, New Yorker (2022) [Short article]
Has Putin's war failed and what does Russia want?, P. Kirby, BBC (2023) [Short article]
The Cold War Explained in 15 Minutes, YouTube (2021) [15 min. video]
Russian Intelligence, K. Riehle (NIU, 2022)
Putin’s People, C. Belton (William Collins, 2021)
Between Two Fires, J. Yaffa (Duggan Books, 2020)
The New Cold War, E. Lucas (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2014)
Primary Sources
The Putin Files, CBS (n.d.)
Memorandum of Conversations (Rise of Putin)
Clinton with Putin (2000)
Clinton with Putin (2000)
Clinton with Yeltsin (1999)
Clinton with Yeltsin (1999)
Clinton with Putin (1999)
Madelaine Albright with Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov (1999)
Clinton with Putin (1999)
Clinton with Yeltsin (1999)
Oral Histories
U.S. Ambassadors to Moscow
John Huntsman (2017-2019)
John F. Tefft (2014-2017)
Michael McFaul (2012-2014)
John Beryle (2008-2012)
Alexander Vershbow (2001-2005)
James F. Collins (1997-2001)
Thomas R. Pickering (1993-1996)
Jack F. Matlock (1987-1991)
*Wildcard Resource*
Putin Strikes: The Coming War for Eastern Europe
A two-player board game where one commands the Kremlin’s forces and the other an international polyglot force. Trippy or what?
*EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*
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