Spoilercast 39: Theorizing Before All the Evidence

We sat down to really commit to our own capital mistake: #setlock theorizing. Consulting fans old and new join us for an enormous review of all the filming block information we have, post-Sherlocked.

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Spoilercast 39: Theorizing Before All the Evidence

We sat down to really commit to our own capital mistake: #setlock theorizing. Consulting fans old and new join us for an enormous review of all the filming block information we have, post-Sherlocked.

Consulting Fans: Caroline, Ruther2, Leslie (thesetison/hudders-and-hiddles), Hotsmugstache, and Meg (midgetnazgul/sh_dowsingrod)

(SPOILERS below)

Links in the show:

Hotsmugstache on Tumblr
Leslie on Tumblr and Twitter
Meg on Twitter
Ruther on Twitter and Storify
Sherlocked and catchup

What did we learn?

“Very worrying” [1]

Episode 4.1: The Six Thatchers

Written by Mark Gatiss, directed by Rachel Talalay
ACD canon/references:

Six Napoleons – title, Sandeford
Silver Blaze – Ferrari horse and curious incident in the nighttime
Stockbroker’s Clerk – gold teeth
Study in Scarlet? – Peckham Poisoner headline from newspaper prop at NGS
Golden Pince-Nez/Black Peter/Abbey Grange – DI Hopkins
John’s blog with same title

Locations:

Christening with TSoT bridesmaid SAs, posh clothes
Mary investigates Margam Abbey at night with torch (SDCC trailer)

Mint and Mustard, John and Mary date
Converted church, Ella’s office?

John and Mary’s bedroom
Plane scene
Molly Hooper “6” office?

Portland House – embassy siege, Mary, AJ, hostage situation, maybe Sherlock
Margam Park
Tredegar House (TRF boarding school)
Coedarhydaglyn – car explosion
Penarth
Interior/studio:
West Bute Street – skull graffiti
Bonnington Square/Vine Lodge – bloodhound and baby’s day out
Borough Market – bloodhound and baby’s day out
Watson house, Wordworth Avenue – Molly and baby, Watson bedroom scene
Cyncoed Road – crime scene with Lestrade, Mycroft, Sherlock, SA in pyjamas, SOCO team
Trinity Church Square
Vauxhall Bridge – broody Sherlock on phone, starts running
MI6 plaza – Sherlock confrontation with male (Moriarty lookalike? James Holmes?)
MI6 interior – closed set
London Aquarium tunnel at South Bank – Sherlock, multiple police, one non-principal cast member
Underwater filming (Arwel 2nd unit)
Miles Street tunnel – Sherlock, John, pregnant Mary in car, shark
Senedd – Mycroft, Lady Smallwood, Sherlock (SDCC trailer)

SAs: Daniel Hoffman-Gill (Gold Teeth), Harry Gostelow (Ambassador’s Husband), Tanya Moodie (Ella), James Holmes (Passenger), Luke Antony (SAS soldier), Sacha Dhawan (AJ), Charles Edwards (David Wellsborough), Eleanor Matsuura (DI Hopkins), Andrew Bone (Sandeford), Hattie Ladbury (female client), Ben Abell (indignant man), Vijay Doshi (Gavin, MI5 agent)
Arwel 2nd unit
Happy families card game
Serbian connection
Loose threads:
Relevant Ruther storifies: parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Episode 1 recap by thesetison

Episode 4.2: The Lying Detective

Dying Detective
Copper Beeches
Thor Bridge (Mrs. Gibson the victim as LIR?)
Devil’s Foot (nurse Cornish)

Cardiff U Student Union building – Gedgrave Hospital, modern nurse, children’s ward
Miskin – LIR 70s house, car chase scene
Morocco – Mary
Mount Stuart Square – IV drip SAs, Sherlock blending indoor/outdoor MP and confrontation with Smith
Charles Street – faerie lights, night scene, freestanding window
Porthcawl – outdoor rocky area by water. Rachel there, 4.1 pickup? Amanda, Ben
Cardiff Civic Centre – Mycroft, CCTV?
NGS –
Stephenson Way, near NGS- Mary, Audi from Miles Street Tunnel
Gordon Square/Byng Street – Sherlock and LIR at bus stop, discussing letter (sniffing), possible gun shots; Molly there in Watson House/babysitting outfit
Hungerford Bridge/Jubilee Gardens –
Riverside House – IV drip SAs and 70s nurses, Smith
Kennington – John, bus scenes, maxi skirt SA, suitcase, bins some paper

Canada recce/teasing
70s theme – nurses, Miskin house
Cars – red Aston Martin, limo, ambulance, police
Chat show host
Explosion at 221B

Written by Steven Moffat, directed by Nick Hurran (HLV)
ACD canon/references:
Locations:

Mrs. Hudson throws keys to John
Sherlock and LIR walk in rain

Sherlock and LIR, Sherlock doubles over and cries out
Sherlock crumples up letter and throws gun (from LIR’s purse) into water, green scene
eating on bench, talking

SAs: Toby Jones (Culverton Smith), Sian Brooke (LIR), Katy Wix (nurse Cornish), Tom Brooke (Wiggins), Aleksandar Mikic (Interrogation Guard), various children, cream suit man (Toby Jones double?), Sharon Cherry Ballard (police woman), Asheq Akhtar (Saheed), Usman Akram (MI5 agent), Lee Kemp (MI6 agent), unknown child actor (6 year old Sherlock), David Kirkbride (policeman at Miskin), Gina Bramhill (??), Lee Knight (reporter), Eileen Dunwoody (woman), Helen Coathup-Collier (crying broadcaster)
Loose threads:
Relevant Ruther storifies: parts 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (Gordon Square), 13 (Hungerford Bridge/Jubilee Gardens night shoot), 14 (Riverside House), 15 (Kennington, Riverside House)
Episode 2 recap by thesetison

Episode 4.3: title unannounced, code word “Sherrinford”

Three Garridebs??

Southerndown
Cardiff Bay, Tunnara II boat – John and Sherlock with fishermen
Studio
Ty Gwyn mansion in Lisvane, Cardiff
Lower Machen farm, private location. Mark’s ADR photo.
Tredegar House
Rathbone Place

Cowritten by Mark Gatiss and Steven Moffat, directed by Benjamin Caron.
Rathbone film influences, violin playing
ACD canon references
Locations:

Ogmore cottage – Sherlock, John, Molly. Safehouse?
Ogmore Castle – Sherlock, John
Southerndown beach –

Moriarty gets off helicopter, Molly(?)
John on beach
Fight scene
John and elderly fisherman, hands up

Cave (Swansea Bay Studios)
Plane scene? (Honor Kneafsey)

SAs: Timothy Carlton (Mr. Holmes), Ralph Ineson (Vince), Richard Crehan (Ben), various Moriarty goons, Tam Mutu (Leonard), Matt Young (police officer), Honor Kneafsey (girl on plane), Clare Foster (Velma), unknown young girl (young Mary?), Brett Allen (guard)
Loose threads: Molly and Sherlock big scene, “insane wish fulfillment” per Moffat, promo photo (turned into a band meme)
Relevant Ruther storifies: parts 16, 17 (Southerndown/Ogmore), 18 (boat/Ty Gwyn), 19 (Lower Machen, casting), 20 (casting wrap-up)
Episode 3 recap by thesetison

Looking ahead

Probable announcement of broadcast schedule
Post-production schedule right now: ADR [1][2], music [1][2][3]
Rumors that series 4 is last one, “end of an era”
Principal cast’s commitments to other projects

Misc speculation

Character death(s)

Mycroft, Lestrade, Mary, Hudders, Holmes parent, baby Watson, Molly
Mary’s golden wrap (debunked)

Mary, Mary, Mary

Mary is Moriarty / Mary is Moran
Mary works for Mycroft
Mary and David (popular fan theory about the baby and him mirroring John)
Mary and Molly (amount of time they seem to film together)

Sherrinford

Brother/twin theory, “the other one”

SDCC trailer: Who’s in the bed? What episode is it from? Any other big questions from the trailer?
Sharks vs. dogs, water theme
Unpublished stories collected by jenna221b
Benedict interview British GQ article

 

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Show Intro/Outro – Rockwell, Hit Me With Your 80’s Box: Somebody’s Watching Me (Single Version)

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Three Patch Productions (Producer). (2016, October 10). Spoilercast Episode 39: Theorizing Before All the Evidence. Three patch podcast.  Podcast retrieved from https://three-patch.com///2016/10/10/spoilercast-39