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Prepare for a clash of continents and vowel sounds as North American travelling man Charles Martin meets stay-at-home UK type William Gallagher. It could get rough –– except for how the pair of them are full of how their new MacNN book is a best seller. They do shut up about that but it takes some effort. What gets them off the topic is how Tim Cook has just been talking sense at the White House about encryption and maybe he's being listened to. Maybe. There are also Apple updates and the occasional rumor that we're all listening to.