Today, I get to share my conversation with minister and author Kathryn Maack. Kathryn shares her seemingly accidental, but God-ordained road into vocational ministry. God began to reveal Himself to her in ways that helped her to process how we as Believers approach the Lord, and that there can be a segregation that happens within ourselves in how to we relate to the Lord or even are willing to learn about Him or worship Him. Whether that be disconnect between our head and heart, Spirit and the Truth, there is much that can be disrupted and disjointed due to pain, our experiences, or perhaps even half truths we’ve come to believe as the whole truth. She dives into this topic in the book she coauthored with ministry partner Aaron Williams Whole: The Life-Changing Power of Relating to God with All of Yourself. When the Lord made us, He did not make us in segmented pieces, but as a whole person. Kathryn and Aaron want to remind us that Jesus wants to make us holy and whole and He wants us to live out the identity He created us to have.

if you are struggling in your own story because it is just… loud. Too much yelling, too much fighting, too many confusing narratives, I want you to hear me say that the Lord is with you. He is the God of peace, and a God of justice and mercy. He will not leave you here.


If you are struggling in your story because it is just too quiet, and you feel like God is too far and you don’t know what to make of what you see, feel or what you’ve seen, I want you to hear me say that the Lord is also with you. He has a history that suggests that even when it seems like He is absent, He is anything but. He never leaves us or forsakes us and rejoices over us with loud singing. He listens to lament, He can take our questions, and He will not leave you here.

No matter you are, I hope you know that you matter, and your story matters. Thanks for hanging out with me and I’ll see you next time. 

 

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References:

Aaron Williams 

Dwellings is a ministry that helps ordinary people cultivate kingdom communities, typically in small groups or house churches

Jennie Allen

IF Gathering

Ancient Jewish perspective on the heart being one

Build My Life

Revival at Asbury University

Peter Greig 24/7

The Great Awakening

The Hebrides Revival 

The Welsh Revival 

“Walk Down This Mountain” - Bebo Norman

The Jesus movement in the 60’s-70’s 

“Jesus Revolution” movie 

Barna study about Gen Z not being in the church 

Men of Valor 

“Reckless Love”- Cody Asbury

“Rattle” - Elevation Worship

“Sanctified”- Mercy Me - “We worship with the sound of broken shackles falling to the ground.”

Priscilla Shirer- Armor of God study

The power is in the name of Jesus

 

Scripture References: 

Mark 12:30-31- Love the Lord with all your heart, mind, soul and strength

John 4:23- true worshippers come to Jesus in Spirit and Truth 

Jeremiah 17:9- The heart is deceitful above all else

John 11:38-44 Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; John 2:13-22,Mark 3:5) Matthew 14:14; 15:32, Matthew 9:36,  Matthew 4:1-11,Mark 1:12-13,Luke 4:1-13, Hebrews 4:15- Jesus came and displayed emotions but never sinned

Matthew 22:34-40-This is the first and greatest commandment 

Galatians 5:22- The fruit of the spirit is joy 

Psalm 34:8- Taste and see that the Lord is good 

Ephesians 1:18- The Spirit enlivens the eyes of the heart

John 5:39- You search the scriptures and you want to find Me, but you don’t know Me

Exodus 34:29-35-Moses shining with God glory’s off the mountain 

Exodus 32- Moses catching the people in a hot mess 

Exodus 34- Moses comes back with the Law again 

John 16:13- The Holy Spirit guides us into all Truth 

John 16:8- The Holy Spirit convicts us 

John 14:25-26, 1 Corinthians 2:9-14 -The Holy Spirit helps us discern scripture

Psalm 28:7, Psalm 121- He is our help 

Ezekiel 37:1-14- God calls the bones to life

2 Corinthians 3:17- There is Someone who wants you to be free 

John 8:36, Galatians 5:1, Isaiah 28:16- Christ is the cornerstone 

Ephesians 6:17-The sword of the Spirit is the word of God 

Ephesians 6:12- We are not at war with flesh and blood

1 Thessalonians 5:23- Jesus wants to make us holy and whole and He wants us to live out the identity He created us to have. 

 

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