In this full climategenn episode I am speaking with Professor Kevin Anderson from the Universities of Manchester and Uppsala about how journalists and experts have failed the public by an over dependence on reductionist thinking, as opposed to systems thinking, much needed to avert disaster.

[PREORDER: MY BOOK ‘COPOUT - HOW GOVERNMENTS HAVE FAILED THE PEOPLE ON CLIMATE’ (AD LIB BOOKS) IS AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER - https://copout.genn.cc ]

Instead of making the space for envisioning a better world, perpetrators of the status quo instead construct fantasies as a way to deflect criticism and delay real action.