How big are the goals that you're working on? Is there a better way to assess the value of design? And why do we need a Ministery of Design? Important questions on which Marcel Zwiers, who's the founding partner of 31Volts, shares his perspective in this episode. Enjoy!

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EPISODE GUIDE
02:30 - First encounter with Service Design
03:53 - What if we would look at design in the most fundamental way?
11:45 - How big should we think when it comes to Service Design?
19:45 - How can we park our ego?
26:29 - Big question: am I the crazy one?

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LINKS FROM THE SHOW
Ministy of Design (Dutch) ➜ https://www.facebook.com/ministerievandesign/
Marcel on LinkedIn ➜ https://www.linkedin.com/in/zwiers/

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