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95: "The Sustainable Development Goals are all about us humans!" - Dr. Helen Kopnina - Sentientism
Sentientism
English - February 06, 2022 19:20 - 1 hour - 72.7 MB - ★★★★★ - 19 ratingsPhilosophy Society & Culture Homepage Download Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Overcast Castro Pocket Casts RSS feed
Helen (@hkopnina) is Senior Lecturer in Sustainable Business at the University of Northumbria & also lectures at The Hague University. Her research focuses on environmental education, biodiversity & corporate sustainability.
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.
We discuss:
00:00 Welcome
01:12 Helen's Intro
02:49 What's Real?
- The passage to caring about ecosystems for many ecocentrists was through a connection to individual animals
- Growing up atheist "just like everybody else in the Soviet Union" in Moscow
- Parents who were "wild about wilderness"
- Visiting Siberia "in the summer & without gulags"
- "I loved fairy tales" but firmly naturalistic
- "I'm still 99% atheist with 1% reserved for doubt"
- Political dissident parents, pushing back on ideology
- "When you don't have religion you create a religion yourself - & that was communism... we had Lenin & Marx as our gods..."
- Lenin, Marx & Engels as a "holy trinity"?
- "My parents instructed me that it was bullshit"
- Naturalistic ontology (no supernatural) & epistemology (use evidence & reason)
- Flat earth, anti-vaxx, one party states...
13:45 What (& Who) Matters?
- Kant, deontology, consequentialism...
- "You can call me a cynic - I don't think there is any absolute morality - I think we invent it."
- Injustice & unfairness
- Frans de Waal's fairness experiments with chimps
- "Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) are all about us humans" (vs. https://sentientism.info/how/sentientist-development-goals)
- "Why don't we have the same moral consideration for billions of other living beings - it just seems inconsistent... unjust"
- Environmental Justice isn't about the env. its about distribution of goods & harms among humans
- Wokeness, fairness, division & distribution. The risks of forcing pure equality (e.g. Soviet Union - bloody revolution then a new elite emerges)
- Avoiding relativism & nihilism. Can we construct a universal morality?
- The impacts on Soviet Union of WWII then Stalin
- "I see our planet as one of billions - so it doesn't really matter"
- Anthropology & cultural relativism "why is human sacrifice & cannibalism a good thing?"
- Moral progress "but things can be turned back too"
- Survival & reproductive rationales for morality "Otherwise you get beaten up"
- "Anger at inconsistency... it pisses me off that it just applies to one single species"
- Feminism: "I'm just not interested to be honest"
...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info and on YouTube.
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