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88: "Punk music was my gateway into politics & ethics" - Sociologist Nick Pendergrast - Sentientist Conversation
Sentientism
English - December 11, 2021 19:11 - 1 hour - 84.3 MB - ★★★★★ - 19 ratingsPhilosophy Society & Culture Homepage Download Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Overcast Castro Pocket Casts RSS feed
Nick (@NickPende & theconversation) is a Sociologist who researches social movements, social change & Critical Animal Studies. He is a member of The Institute for Critical Animal Studies, the International Association of Vegan Sociologists & The Australian Sociological Association. Nick co-hosts the Freedom of Species podcast & radio show on Melbourne’s 3CR community radio station & also co-hosts the Progressive Podcast Australia podcast with his partner Katie.
In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”
Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.
We discuss:
00:00 Welcome
01:22 Nick's Intro
- Animal advocacy & social justice activism - doing them & studying them sociologically
- Hosting the Freedom of Species podcast & radio show
04:50 What's Real?
- Growing up non-religious w/agnostic (or atheist?) parents
- Joining a religious friend at Sunday School
- Being very anti-religious at 5-6 years old (a mini Richard Dawkins?) "This doesn't make any sense at all"
- "Religion or spirituality has zero impact on my ethics"
- Softening somewhat...
- "Myq Kaplan probably started off where I was before taking mushrooms... I've just never taken the mushrooms"
- Non-supernatural analogues for spirituality/supernatural: Flow states, rituals, habits
- The ethical problems of believing without evidence e.g. anti-vaxx
- Harry Potter & the Methods of Rationality fanfic
- Being open minded but not wasting our time on every implausible claim
- Religion as a brake on social progress (sexism, homophobia, speciesism...)
- Religion's positive & negative functions in society
- Reforming religions to conform w/secular ethics
- Threatening children w/eternal torture
22:35 What Matters?
- A Christian friend: "You seem like quite ethical people but you're not religious!"
- Socially progressive, liberal parents, so ethics came naturally
- Apathetic & apolitical as a kid. "I was more into ice hockey"
- Punk rock as a gateway into ethics & politics. Bad Religion
- Protesting the Iraq war
- Anti-war, pro-env, human rights, then animal rights & veganism "It just made total sense"
- Justice first, then compassion. More a rational than an emotional response
- Challenging hierarchies. Human & non-human
- "It didn't make sense that I was above my dog"
...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info and on YouTube.
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