Dr. Sailesh Rao (climatehealers.org) is Founder & Exec Dir of Climate Healers, a non-profit working to heal the climate. After a glittering career in tech he switched to focus on solving our environmental crises. Dr. Rao is the author of two books, Carbon Dharma & Carbon Yoga, & is an Exec Producer of several documentaries including, The Human Experiment (2013), Cowspiracy: The Sustainability Secret (2014), What The Health (2017), A Prayer for Compassion (2019) & They’re Trying to Kill Us (2021).


In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”


Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.


We discuss:


0:00 Welcome




01:14 Dr. Rao's Intro - from India to the US, from tech to saving the world!


- Growing up in a Hindu family in Chennai, India


- "God is in charge & you are just an instrument" vs. the materialism of engineering training


- Being inspired by the moon landing


- Landing his dream job at Bell Labs


- Starting a consulting firm creating the high-speed internet


- "I had achieved, but I wasn't happy"


- Frustrations with commercialisation & cut-throat competition


- Seeing Al Gore talk about climate change... "If half of what he's saying is true I'm wasting my time"


- Jumping to work on climate change "the biggest systems change around"


- Being trained by Al Gore to take the message out


- Asking Al Gore "If we take all the land we're currently using for raising animals & turn it back to forest can we not reverse climate change?" but he didn't want to talk about it


- Starting Climate Healers




07:23 What's Real?


- Becoming disillusioned with religion "This is poor work if God's in charge"


- "We're the only species that's a mistake on this planet"


- Visiting a sanctuary forest "I felt this sense of perfection"... "We did nothing... we gave it back to the animals... make sure no human being comes inside"


- "My granddaughter was born... I felt as if I was holding humanity in my arms"... "I belong exactly as I am... you are a fool!"


- Writing "Carbon Dharma" & "Carbon Yoga"


- "Any 5 year old can tell you... be kind to all life"


- Transforming from caterpillar to butterfly


- "We are the climate regulating species"


- Fire, weapons, partnerships with animals... then fossil fuels


- Be a caretaker species, not a predator species


- "If you insist on being a narcissistic predator species you're going to die"


- "My granddaughter brought me back to faith"


- "We're here to serve the animals not to eat them"


- "The evidence... is that the Bhavadgita is actually correct"




...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info and on YouTube.


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