Secure AF - A Cybersecurity Podcast
141 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 days ago - ★★★★★ - 2 ratingsAvoiding hackers. Easy? With our podcast it can be. Stay in the know on cybersecurity tips, tools, and more in the Secure AF Cyber Security Podcast. Join our hosts, Donovan Farrow and Jonathan Kimmitt, as they cover all things cybersecurity with Alias and outside guests. No matter where you are in your cybersecurity expertise, there’s an episode here for you. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Alias.
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Episode 68 - It's Exploit O'Clock
April 18, 2024 15:00 - 42 minutes - 29.5 MBSeriously, do you know where your data is? It’s an often overlooked question in cybersecurity. In the case of an incident, without knowing where your data is, how do you know what’s been accessed? Where else that data might be? What’s needed to remediate? And what’s less crucial to restore? But even before an incident, how do you know what to protect if you don’t know where your critical and privileged information is? How do you best allocate time, manpower, and resources in the absence of ...
Episode 67 - The CISO Pen Test
April 04, 2024 13:00 - 50 minutes - 35 MBWhat good is a Pen Test? There are a host of answers - knowing your environment, identifying dangers, implementing remediations, meeting compliance. But how should a CISO view a Pen Test given their unique role in the organization? How do they best understand the need, the conduct, the reporting, and the follow through? On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias CISO Jonathan Kimmitt shares his experience and expertise both in his years in the role and as a consultant for other orga...
Episode 66 - Are the Hackers Winning 2024 Edition
March 21, 2024 13:00 - 42 minutes - 29.2 MBAlias stays at the cutting edge of the cybersecurity threat frontier. Today on the SecureAF Podcast, Donovan Farrow and Tanner Shinn discuss a 2023 retrospective with a view to how last year helps us understand and prepare for 2024. Listen, learn, be prepared. We're here to support you, 24/7/365. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
Episode 65 - Holistic Security
March 07, 2024 14:00 - 43 minutes - 29.9 MBCybersecurity is critical to an organization. But cybersecurity is only part of a robust security posture. It’s equally important, and in fact of first importance, to assess information security. You need to assess what privacy guidelines, compliance, and best practices entail what data you can have so you can determine the security needed to keep it safe. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, host Jonathan Kimmitt is joined by Andrew Hernandez, Director of Risk Management at Trapp Techn...
Episode 64: Rules of Engagement
February 22, 2024 14:00 - 26 minutes - 17.9 MBScheduling a cybersecurity engagement can be stressful, for client and pentester alike. Both want the same thing - a well conducted, accurate assessment of the client infrastructure to provide the best value add to bolster cybersecurity. It helps to start from a shared set of standard expectations and practices. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Tanner Shinn and Keelan Knox discuss the 5 Rules of Engagement that every pentester and customer should know and commit to. Watch the fu...
Episode 63 - Critial Infrastructure: The Final Frontier
February 01, 2024 20:00 - 39 minutes - 27.3 MBwWhat's the Final Frontier? For Trekkies, it's space. For cybersecurity, it's Critical Infrastructure. Might not sound exciting, but the risks from poor security and the rewards of strong controls might get you to sit up and take notice. Maybe even motivate you to boldly go where no ethical hacker has gone before. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Donovan Farro and Phillip Wylie discuss why Critical Infrastructure matters, where the vulnerabilities are (such as being 20 yrs behind i...
Episode 62 - Entering Cyber Sideways
January 25, 2024 15:00 - 40 minutes - 27.5 MBWondering what the best path into cybersecurity is? Here's a hint: There's not one answer. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Tanner Shinn and Keelan Knox share very different stories of getting into the field. Even with different paths, they'll share what they have in common and what you should think about and do if you want to become an ethical hacker. Spoiler alert - one of their recommendations is to find internships. Alias is currently accepting applications here: https://bit....
Episode 61 - Pen Test Types
January 11, 2024 15:00 - 52 minutes - 36.1 MBYou may have heard of Penetration Tests. You may know you need one. You may have had one or more. But do you know there's more than one type? More than one take? More than one test? On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias Principal Security Engineer Tanner Shinn and CISO Jonathan Kimmitt discuss the types of Pen Tests, how they're conducted, what they measure, and why they are needed. You'll walk away more informed about this important cybersecurity topic and more ready to know what...
Episode 60 - Integris' Assumed Incident
January 05, 2024 15:00 - 40 minutes - 27.6 MBThere has been a lot of news about the alleged incident experienced by Integris. Some of you may have even received emails from the threat actors revealing personal information to solicit money. This is not the first attack to leverage the threat of leaked data for monetary reward. It is among the first for the threat actors to directly appeal to the individual victims. Join host Donovan Farrow and guest Chris Yates for a discussion about the cybersecurity backdrop to this assumed incid...
Episode 59 - Pen Test Gaps
December 21, 2023 11:00 - 33 minutes - 22.9 MBYou know you need regular penetration tests to ensure your network is secure. You know the steps to remediate the findings and take the recommended actions to continue on a path toward cybersecurity. But what about what you don't know? What about what the penetration test doesn't cover or doesn't reveal? On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias CISO Jonathan Kimmitt and Director of Security Phillip Wylie share their insights on what penetration tests should cover, what they often do...
Episode 58 - Solar Winds and Beyond
December 07, 2023 13:00 - 53 minutes - 36.9 MBThe Solar Winds breach is not news. The CISO being personally named in the investigation is. Although not the first CISO to be so identified, this is the most high profile. This raises questions for the future of CISO role and responsibility and IT more generally. Should an individual be held responsible for an incident? What is their responsibility to monitor and report? Does this responsibility extend from C-Suite to SOC Analyst? What legal precedent might this set? On this episode of...
Episode 57 - Introducing Phillip Wylie
November 09, 2023 18:00 - 35 minutes - 24.5 MBIf you follow our socials, you know Phillip Wylie recently joined the Alias crew! We’re excited to welcome him to help us build our team’s presence supporting organizations’ and individuals’ growth in cybermaturity. Join Alias CISO Jonathan Kimmitt to hear his story of getting into cybersecurity, what’s brought him to Alias, and what's to come. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify ...
Episode 56 - The Human Incident Response
October 25, 2023 20:00 - 58 minutes - 40.1 MBIt requires technical expertise to respond to a breach. It requires thinking like a hacker to know where to go, what to do, and what level of response is appropriate. It requires the human element. But humans aren't machines. Your staff and any outside experts require basic needs to be met: food, shelter (well, at least sleep), probably a lot of caffeine. In a crisis, it's easy to not attend to those. How much easier is it to not attend to the interpersonal dynamics both during and after an ...
Episode 55 - The Hacking Business
October 02, 2023 14:00 - 36 minutes - 24.8 MBDid you know some ransomware groups have customer support better than major businesses? That the negotiations might feel more like a regular corporate transaction than a back-alley holdup? On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, CEO Donovan Farrow and Security Team Lead Tanner Shinn share their experience working the business side of an Incident Response. You'll hear stories of every size and brand of company, lessons learned, and tips for how to respond. It's a fitting topic to begin Cy...
Episode 54: Your Family Is The Target
September 07, 2023 20:00 - 54 minutes - 37.4 MBYou know you may be a target. But what about your family? How could a hacker leverage those closest to you to gain advanced access to your work? Recently on the And Security For All podcast, Alias CISO Jonathan Kimmitt and Security Team Lead Tanner Shinn discussed this question. You can listen to their conversation here. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, they turn a Blue Team eye to your family. Join us as they discuss steps they currently take or would take with their family to ens...
Episode 53 - DefCon Debrief 2023
August 24, 2023 15:00 - 20 minutes - 14 MBWhat were the lessons from Defcon 31? What were the most noteworthy experiences of the conference (Hint: it's not all about the talks and villages). On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, join Alias Security Team Lead Tanner Shinn and Security Engineer Keelan Knox to hear what they learned and what went down this year at Defcon. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you...
Episode 52 - DEF CON Preview 2023
August 09, 2023 14:00 - 24 minutes - 16.9 MBHeaded to DEF CON? Want to know what you should know and where you should be? And most importantly, how to survive? On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, host Donovan Farrow and guest Tanner Shinn talk all thing DEF CON. New to DEF CON? Learn from us how to make the most of the experience. Returning to DEF CON? Remember best talks and best places to go and people to meet (including our team!). Not attending this year? Get a sense of what you’re missing and why you should attend next year....
Episode 51 - Digital Forensics
July 27, 2023 15:00 - 45 minutes - 31.3 MBDigital forensics may be something you don't think about. Or think about only after an incident or breach. But knowing what techniques and tools are used will help equip you to understand your potential vulnerabilities and strengthen your security posture. And you'll gain more insight into the work an Incident Response team does. In this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias CEO and digital forensics expert, consultant, and expert witness will share his experience and expertise. He'll share...
Episode 50! - Targets of Opportunity
July 13, 2023 15:00 - 43 minutes - 29.6 MBThe SecureAF Podcast is 50! Listen this week as our hosts discuss a critical topic in cybersecurity. Your environment may be unique. Your business may feel to small to be noticed. But to a hacker, everyone is a target of opportunity, and every target may yield to the same avenues of attack. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias CEO Donovan Farrow and CISO Jonathan Kimmitt discuss how to view your environment from the perspective of the attacker. And it’s not just your network. It’...
Episode 49 - Pentester vs. Thintester
June 22, 2023 22:00 - 45 minutes - 31.2 MBWant to become a Pentester rather than a Thintester? Want to find out what a Thintester even means? In this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias CEO Donovan Farrow and CISO Jonathan Kimmitt discuss one of our often-asked questions: What do I need to do to become a Pentester? They'll talk about what qualities and experiences prepare you for the role (you might be surprised!) and why knowing the why more than just the what of how to use tools and leverage exploits matter. Watch the full ...
Episode 48 - Updates and Announcements - Secure AF
June 08, 2023 14:00 - 2 minutes - 1.44 MBSecureAF host Donovan Farrow shares news about transitions with the SecureAF Podcast and exciting announcements about what else is coming for the Alias podcast lineup. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
Episode 47 - IOT and XIOT Devices and Dangers
May 24, 2023 20:00 - 53 minutes - 37 MBThe Internet of Things (IoT) and connection Operational Technology (OT) devices has opened up possibilities for extending interconnectivity and creating means of more immediate controls on crucial systems and everyday devices. These open opportunities for hackers to exploit their connections and leverage access for malicious and destructive ends. On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, special guest Brian Contos joins us to explore this new world of devices and dangers. Discover how IoT, O...
Episode 46 - Hacking a Cybersecurity Career
May 11, 2023 14:00 - 51 minutes - 35.1 MBBuilding a cybersecurity career is a two-way street. There are the questions for those who do the hiring and those who are being hired - they're the same set of questions - What should and do employers look for? What education or certifications are needed? How do employers find and attract good talent? In this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Chad Kliewer with ISC(2) joins host Donovan Farrow to talk about best principles and practices. Hiring managers - Learn how to find the best cybersec...
Episode 45 - Code of Honor
April 27, 2023 13:00 - 42 minutes - 29.3 MBBack the blue. Don’t start a fight; always finish one. Hold the door. Yes, ma’m. Don’t mess with Texas. From serious to seemingly frivolous, we’re steeped in ways to think, act, and believe. What if those are all expressions of a “code” that social engineers can use to leverage better exploits? On this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias Cybersecurity Director of Communication Todd Wedel will share how this code works and how it can make you a better social engineer. #cybersecurity #infos...
Episode 44 - Vendor Due Diligence
April 13, 2023 13:00 - 58 minutes - 40.3 MBHow do you work with vendors to ensure they are meeting your requirements for regulatory compliance? In this episode of the SecureAF Podcast, Alias CISO Jonathan Kimmitt will share his experience and expert tips on how to work with vendors to ensure a secure partnership. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
Episode 43 - Cyber Training that Doesn't Suck
March 30, 2023 13:00 - 42 minutes - 29.2 MBHow do people really change their cyber behavior? On this episode of Secure AF, Kevin Sesock met with us to discuss the challenges and pitfalls of traditional approaches to security training and his framework for training that doesn't suck. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
#42 - SOC It To 'Em
March 16, 2023 13:00 - 37 minutes - 25.9 MBHow do you build a Security Operations Center from the ground up? On this episode of Secure AF, Gharrett Workun and Wade VanDeburgh met with us to discuss how they lead the development of a SOC, as well as strategized creative ways to keep their team engaged. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
#41 APIs: More Risk Than You Think
March 02, 2023 14:00 - 36 minutes - 25.2 MBWhy aren’t we paying more attention to API security? Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) offer a wide range of ever expanding capabilities, but cybersecurity needs to catch up to keep these attack surfaces secure. On this episode of Secure AF, Phillip Wylie, Manager of Tech Evangelism & Enablement at CyCognito met with us to discuss the topic of his article Securing APIs Through External Attack Surface Management. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the who...
Episode #40 Are The Hackers Winning?
February 16, 2023 14:00 - 45 minutes - 31.5 MBHow are cybersecurity professionals doing in the fight against hackers? Are the hackers winning? This episode we chat with Donovan Farrow, CEO and Founder of Alias, as he breaks down the past present and future of cybersecurity. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliasinfosec. Catch the whole episode now at secureafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
#40 Are The Hackers Winning?
February 16, 2023 14:00 - 45 minutes - 31.5 MBHow are cybersecurity professionals doing in the fight against hackers? Are the hackers winning? This episode we chat with Donovan Farrow, CEO and Founder of Alias, as he breaks down the past present and future of cybersecurity. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
#39 IT vs Cybersecurity
December 15, 2022 14:00 - 14 minutes - 10.2 MBKnowing how to build something isn’t the same as knowing how to fix it. All too often, IT and Cybersecurity get lumped together and one is asked to do the other’s job. Though they may seem similar from the outside, both roles are uniquely important for sustaining your organization’s data and network infrastructure. Join us for this episode of the Secure AF Podcast where we spoke with technical writer Todd Wedel about the differences between IT and Cybersecurity and how to better utilize eac...
#38 Protecting Users From Themselves
December 01, 2022 13:00 - 16 minutes - 11.7 MBWe've talked about password security a lot on this podcast, and we’ll definitely keep talking about it. What we haven’t discussed enough is password security from the system administrator side. What can admins do to better protect their users from themselves? Find out in this episode of the Secure AF podcast as we talk with security engineer, Robert Leasure. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podca...
#37 Protecting Users From Themselves
December 01, 2022 13:00 - 16 minutes - 11.7 MBWe've talked about password security a lot on this podcast, and we’ll definitely keep talking about it. What we haven’t discussed enough is password security from the system administrator side. What can admins do to better protect their users from themselves? Find out in this episode of the Secure AF podcast as we talk with security engineer, Robert Leasure. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
#37 Cybersecurity In Action
November 17, 2022 13:00 - 19 minutes - 13.6 MBThis week on the Secure AF Podcast, we spoke with cybersecurity professionals about their experiences in the industry. Join guest host Wes Malone as he explores three different points of view from inside the cyber world. We were curious to find out how cyber pros felt about the industry. It was great hear from three individuals who got started and ended up on such different paths. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYP...
#36 Cybersecurity In Action
November 17, 2022 13:00 - 19 minutes - 13.6 MBThis week on the Secure AF Podcast, we spoke with cybersecurity professionals about their experiences in the industry. Join guest host Wes Malone as he explores three different points of view from inside the cyber world. We were curious to find out how cyber pros felt about the industry. It was great hear from three individuals who got started and ended up on such different paths. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watc...
#36 Mental Health in Cybersecurity
November 03, 2022 12:00 - 21 minutes - 14.8 MBMental health is one of those things that, while we’re getting better, we still often struggle to talk about and deal with. Our industry can be especially stressful and many cybersecurity professionals experience everything from imposter syndrome to burnout. We spoke with security engineer, Kallen Curtis, to discuss some of the most common mental health issues we face in the cybersecurity industry, how to identify them, and how to combat them. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybe...
#35 Mental Health in Cybersecurity
November 03, 2022 12:00 - 21 minutes - 14.8 MBMental health is one of those things that, while we’re getting better, we still often struggle to talk about and deal with. Our industry can be especially stressful and many cybersecurity professionals experience everything from imposter syndrome to burnout. We spoke with security engineer, Kallen Curtis, to discuss some of the most common mental health issues we face in the cybersecurity industry, how to identify them, and how to combat them. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast....
#34 Your Internet Identity
October 20, 2022 12:00 - 27 minutes - 18.7 MBAs an internet user, your anonymity is not guaranteed. Who has access to your information? Whose tracking your online habits? And how can you protect your privacy online? Find out in this Episode of the Secure AF Podcast! We spoke with two of our security engineers here at Alias, Andrew Lemon and Tanner Shinn, about how to stay anonymous online. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
#35 Your Internet Identity
October 20, 2022 12:00 - 27 minutes - 18.7 MBAs an internet user, your anonymity is not guaranteed. Who has access to your information? Whose tracking your online habits? And how can you protect your privacy online? Find out in this Episode of the Secure AF Podcast! We spoke with two of our security engineers here at Alias, Andrew Lemon and Tanner Shinn, about how to stay anonymous online. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify ...
#34 Password Security
October 06, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.47 MBIt’s Cybersecurity Awareness Month, are your passwords secure? Find out in this episode of the Secure AF Podcast! We chatted with Technical Writer, Todd Wedel, to dive into why password security matters and how you can make stronger passwords. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
#33 Password Security
October 06, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.47 MBIt’s Cybersecurity Awareness Month, are your passwords secure? Find out in this episode of the Secure AF Podcast! We chatted with Technical Writer, Todd Wedel, to dive into why password security matters and how you can make stronger passwords. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
Episode #33 Password Security
October 06, 2022 12:00 - 13 minutes - 9.47 MBIt’s Cybersecurity Awareness Month, are your passwords secure? Find out in this episode of the Secure AF Podcast! We chatted with Technical Writer, Todd Wedel, to dive into why password security matters and how you can make stronger passwords. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
#33: Secure The Unexpected
September 22, 2022 12:00 - 15 minutes - 10.4 MBOn this episode of the Secure AF Podcast, we spoke with Robert Leasure, security engineer at Alias, to explore some of the most interesting things we have discovered on pen tests. As pentesters, we encounter a lot of surprising things you’d never expect to be vulnerable to cyberattacks. Even the smallest lapses in security can lead to a huge breach. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spo...
#32: Secure The Unexpected
September 22, 2022 12:00 - 15 minutes - 10.4 MBOn this episode of the Secure AF Podcast, we spoke with Robert Leasure, security engineer at Alias, to explore some of the most interesting things we have discovered on pen tests. As pentesters, we encounter a lot of surprising things you’d never expect to be vulnerable to cyberattacks. Even the smallest lapses in security can lead to a huge breach. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
#32 Memory Forensics
September 08, 2022 12:00 - 8 minutes - 5.62 MBThis week we spoke with our digital forensics expert, Andrew Peters, to highlight some important uses for memory forensics and how data can be recovered using computer memory. Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
#31 Memory Forensics
September 08, 2022 12:00 - 8 minutes - 5.62 MBThis week we spoke with our digital forensics expert, Andrew Peters, to highlight some important uses for memory forensics and how data can be recovered using computer memory. Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
Episode #31 Memory Forensics
September 08, 2022 12:00 - 8 minutes - 5.62 MBThis week we spoke with our digital forensics expert, Andrew Peters, to highlight some important uses for memory forensics and how data can be recovered using computer memory.
#31 Bonus Episode - We Made the List: Inc. 5000's Fastest Growing Companies
September 01, 2022 12:00 - 10 minutes - 7.22 MBThis week we have a special bonus episode of the Secure AF Podcast where we got to speak with CEO and Founder of Alias, Donovan Farrow, about his thoughts on our Inc. 5000 placement! Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.
Bonus Episode - We Made the List: Inc. 5000's Fastest Growing Companies
September 01, 2022 12:00 - 10 minutes - 7.22 MBThis week we have a special bonus episode of the Secure AF Podcast where we got to speak with CEO and Founder of Alias, Donovan Farrow, about his thoughts on our Inc. 5000 placement! Catch the whole episode now at securafpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts Watch on our YouTube Channel!
#30: DEFCON Debrief 2022
August 25, 2022 12:00 - 23 minutes - 15.9 MBOur engineers just got back from the largest hacker conference in the nation. So join us for this episode where we discuss all the stuff Principal Security Engineer, Andrew Lemon, and Security Engineering Lead, Tanner Shinn, learned from the many talks and villages at DEFCON! Watch the full video at youtube.com/@aliascybersecurity. Catch the whole episode now at https://bit.ly/47eYPTK Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere you get you're podcasts.