This is the first in a series curated by Thomas Kail, director of Hamilton and In the Heights, and featuring Kail in conversation with some of the most fascinating directors currently working on the American stage. In this podcast Kail and Stafford Arima engage in a lively conversation about their careers and the theatrical worlds that have shaped them. Throughout their hour-long session, the two artists discuss many questions that often come up in their work and ultimately engage in a critical discussion about how directors may separate the ‘journey’ from the ‘destination.’