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This week's random topic is negative space in art.

Meagan and Jeff jump back in for a full episode where they discuss the importance of negative space in our lives.  Meagan brings inspiration from an 8th grade Art class lesson.  Jeff talks about his retirement plans. We dive into the world of biomagnetism.

How do you carve out negative space in your life? Where could you say no this week? What is your heart telling people around you? Let us know!

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Artwork by: @halfcaffdesigns

Music appears courtesy of Leo Goes Grr:

Intro: Manhattan from the album Almost Fiction

Outro: Sunset, OK from the ep We'll Come Back for You

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