SAY MORE
86 episodes - English - Latest episode: 17 days ago - ★★★★★ - 365 ratingsOlivia Gatwood and Melissa Lozada-Oliva are two internationally-renowned writers and performers who have a lot of questions about things that don't matter. But mostly, they are just two girls who are unfortunately not talking less.
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EP. 81 - TRAD WIVES w/ GABY DEL VALLE
April 01, 2024 15:25 - 1 hour - 116 MBthe gals talk to trad-wife expert, gaby del valle, who has done extensive reporting on the women bringing old school homesteading onto the main feed.
EP. 80 - *bonus episode* - FROM POETRY TO FICTION
March 25, 2024 22:57 - 4 minutes - 7.84 MBMelissa & Olivia keep getting asked: what is it like to go from poetry to fiction. They talk about it! Also, listeners share a story about their end-of-times pastor grandpa and also ask: is it possible to escape writing commercial and institutional poetry? Only on patreon :)
EP. 79 - WRITING ABOUT FOOD
March 18, 2024 15:14 - 1 hour - 169 MBWe talk through a few listener emails about surviving your mid-twenties, surviving with a UTI on Survivor, and surviving a boss who keeps showing up to work with hickeys. After that, we talk about being hungry. Writing about food, eating while writing, forgetting to eat because we are writing, soylent (????), and why food is such an important detail when it comes to storytelling.
EP. 78 - *bonus episode* - A PEOPLE'S HISTORY OF SLAM POETRY
March 12, 2024 15:20 - 10 minutes - 101 MBhead over to patreon.com/saymorepodcast to listen to the full episode! we got to sit down in real life with one of our closest friends & favorite writers, hieu minh nguyen. together, we got nostalgic about our wild (we were so corny) days of competing in poetry slam and how the artform influenced our professional lives as writers today (we are just really good at self-promotion).
EP. 77 - LOVE IS BLIND & POV
March 04, 2024 16:16 - 1 hour - 167 MBback with another HOME RUN. this week, the gal pals chat about their favorite high-brow television show, love is blind, as well as the infinite ways Point of View can change a story. if this were a dissertation, they would make clearer how these two themes are related, but you get it. right?
EP. 75: ROMANCE - A PROBE
February 19, 2024 17:46 - 1 hour - 151 MBIn honor of Melissa's favorite holiday, we are talking about love. We spoke with Puloma Ghosh, author of Mouth, about tropes in the romance genre, fan-fiction, and why women turn to romance in times of need. Order Puloma's short story collection wherever books are sold!
EP. 73 - AUTOFICTION & THE SELFHOOD PLOT
February 05, 2024 16:23 - 1 hour - 172 MBit's the new season of SAY MORE! thank you for waiting literally two years. this week, we are discussing the genre of autofiction — where it started, who's doing it, and our personal journey to adulthood aka choosing not to share every single thing about our private life in a nonfictional space. for next week's bonus episode, subscribe to our patreon at patreon.com/saymorepodcast, where you can also gain access our montly newsletter. we're so glad to be back xx
EP. 72 - ROCKSTARS, MISTRESSES, SURROGATES, THE MONARCHY
October 07, 2022 18:43 - 1 hour - 140 MBpop culture is truly losing it
EP. 71 - WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT ROE V. WADE w/ PAIGE GREEN
September 21, 2022 17:59 - 50 minutes - 117 MBThe gals welcome former guest Paige Green—nurse, doula, star—to talk about the dismal state of reproductive rights in America and how to generally deal.
EP. 70 - ORIGIN STORIES
March 19, 2022 17:11 - 1 hour - 145 MBM&O, together at last, talk about how they met the most important people in their lives.
EP. 69 - ORGASMS APLENTY
January 28, 2022 18:23 - 54 minutes - 126 MBM&O talk (humbly) all things related to cumming: the different genres orgasm, the lack thereof, and why you can't trust your life decisions if you're having good sex.
EP. 68 - AN ODE TO OUR TWENTIES
January 18, 2022 02:35 - 1 hour - 147 MBAs Melissa and Olivia depart the tragic & exhilarating decade of their twenties, they reminisce on the years they spent being whores in punk houses, sexless in relationships, and a sudden burst of hyper-visibility.
EP. 67 - MORTALITY w/ ANDREA GIBSON
December 10, 2021 19:41 - 1 hour - 172 MBOlivia & Melissa go from complete chaos to total enlightenment in a conversation with renowned poet Andrea Gibson about mortality, the industry of death, the afterlife, and their new book YOU BETTER BE LIGHTING.
EP. 66 - Voyeurism & Sensitive Men
October 15, 2021 15:08 - 49 minutes - 114 MBOlivia & Melissa briefly revisit the theory that Rooney mined their lives, wonder if voyeurism is always sexual, & if they've reached the end of the era of sensitive men.
EP. 65 - OUR LIVES, MINED
August 27, 2021 15:16 - 47 minutes - 109 MBO & M talk about the possibility that their lives have been used as fodder for a bestselling novel. Are they self-involved? Or are they right?
EP. 64 - RETROACTIVE JEALOUSY & OTHER TERRIBLE FEELINGS
June 20, 2021 16:53 - 1 hour - 156 MBM&O talk about how trauma can make relationships a nightmare but also how you can get better.
EP. 63 - ARE WE SMART?
April 08, 2021 23:05 - 51 minutes - 118 MBMelissa & Olivia question whether or not they are smart. Which maybe means they aren't?
Ep. 62: The Oversharing Industrial Complex
February 16, 2021 16:19 - 1 hour - 119 MBMelissa and Olivia talk about what it means when celebrities make money off their wounds and the intentions behind oversharing on the internet. They also go into the nuances of being an abolitionist and what it means to publish former abusers.
EP. 61 - BAD TV & TOUGH LOVE "PARENTING"
January 13, 2021 19:22 - 1 hour - 89.3 MBMelissa & Olivia try to justify their love of melodramatic television & also are in complete denial about their traumatic childhoods.
EP. 60 - ALTERNATE UNIVERSES
December 24, 2020 21:29 - 57 minutes - 79.9 MBMelissa & Olivia talk about what could have been.
EP. 59 - NORMIE CULTURE
November 01, 2020 22:02Olivia & Melissa ponder Instagram script font, barnhouse lifestyle bloggers, women who dream of pumpkin patches, and embroidered towels.
EP. 59 - NORMIE CULTURE
November 01, 2020 22:02Olivia & Melissa ponder Instagram script font, barnhouse lifestyle bloggers, women who dream of pumpkin patches, and embroidered towels.
EP. 58 - WHAT WE'RE CONSUMING
October 06, 2020 17:41 - 59 minutes - 82.5 MBAs in, media. Not food. Media is our food. We feed on the faux-intimate lives of people we do not know.
Say More 9.23.20 RECUT
October 06, 2020 17:41 - 57 minutes - 79.5 MBAs in, media. Not food. Media is our food. We feed on the faux-intimate lives of people we do not know.
EP. 57 - BEING PERFORMATIVE & CAPITALISM
August 07, 2020 17:16 - 1 hour - 102 MBM & O are back, chatting about whether or not they have personalities & what it means to exist inside of a society fueled by consumerism & class warfare :)
EP. 56 - CANCEL CULTURE
July 02, 2020 23:00 - 52 minutes - 73.6 MBMeli & Oli chat about Twitter, accountability, & what it means to be cancelled while working towards restorative justice.
EP. 55 - THE FOREMOTHERS OF PRISON ABOLITION
June 17, 2020 18:26 - 1 hour - 92.9 MBMelissa & Olivia talk extensively about the lives & work of Angela Davis, Ruth Wilson Gilmore, and Mariame Kaba.
EP. 54 - PRISON ABOLITION FOR DUMMIES
June 03, 2020 19:40 - 56 minutes - 79.3 MBMelissa & Olivia answer the five most common questions when talking about abolishing the police & prison.
EP. 53 - RUNNING IS MY BOYFRIEND w/ JOSEFINA OLIVA
May 27, 2020 15:55 - 40 minutes - 56 MBWe talk to Melissa's mom about falling in love with running after her divorce & how, committing to something for three months & then moving onto the next challenge, makes it your boyfriend.
EP. 52 - NORMAL PEOPLE & SEX ON SCREEN
May 20, 2020 20:05 - 1 hour - 99.8 MBO & M talk Normal People and performative sex.
EP. 51 - WHAT WE WANNA BE WHEN WE GROW UP & ALSO OUR BODIES WTF
May 13, 2020 21:52 - 58 minutes - 80.9 MBMelissa & Olivia talk about The Self and what becomes of it.
Say More 5.13 Sam Line Removed
May 13, 2020 21:52 - 58 minutes - 80.7 MBMelissa & Olivia talk about The Self and what becomes of it.
EP. 51 - WHAT WE WANNA BE WHEN WE GROW UP
May 13, 2020 21:52 - 58 minutes - 80.7 MBMelissa & Olivia talk about The Self and what becomes of it.
EP. 50 - NIHILISM vs. PESSIMISM vs. OPTIMISM vs. ?????
May 07, 2020 17:12 - 55 minutes - 130 MBMelissa & Olivia have a little chat about whether they have hope themselves, the world, and the people inside it.
EP. 49 - GROUNDHOG DAY
May 02, 2020 23:12 - 43 minutes - 99.3 MBMelissa & Olivia recount what it is they do every single fucking day.
EP. 47 - WHAT THE FUCK IS COVID-19 w/ JILL GATWOOD
April 15, 2020 23:18 - 1 hour - 155 MBOlivia & Melissa interview Jill Gatwood AKA Olivia's mom who, yes, she still calls mommy. Old habits die hard. She's an epidemiologist so she knows a lot of stuff that's valuable right now.
EP. 46 - THE QUESTIONS WE HATE
April 08, 2020 18:26 - 1 hour - 153 MBMelissa and Olivia answer the questions that started this podcast in the first place: the questions they never want to answer but keep getting asked. But this time, they answer them beautifully and realize that maybe they weren't so bad after all. Does this sound like the summary of a YA novel?
EP. 45 - HOUSEPLANTS & ROMANTIC COMEDIES
April 01, 2020 18:09 - 57 minutes - 132 MBMelissa & Olivia chat about inheriting a green thumb & letting it bloom in the quarantine, as well as why romantic comedies are, perhaps, the most reliable genre of art throughout history.
EP. 44 - SOLITUDE HACKS & ELIZABETH WARREN
March 26, 2020 22:42 - 1 hour - 149 MBMelissa interviews Olivia about the fact that she was already social distancing & Olivia asks Melissa about her tumultuous relationship with Lizzy.
EP. 43 - HOMETOWNS
March 19, 2020 22:45 - 1 hour - 82.8 MBOlivia asks Melissa about her hometown (her mother's kitchen) and Melissa asks Olivia about her's (a desert filled with rusty refrigerators).
EP. 42 - THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA w/ JOSHUA MCELROY
March 11, 2020 20:19 - 40 minutes - 93.3 MBMelissa & Olivia interview an Australian they met at Sundance, who is on a journey across America for the first time.
EP. 42 - THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA w/ JOSHUA MCELROY
March 11, 2020 20:19Melissa & Olivia interview an Australian they met at Sundance, who is on a journey across America for the first time.
EP. 41 - AMERICAN DIRT, REPRESENTATION & TECH BROS
March 04, 2020 15:00 - 56 minutes - 130 MBSEASON 2 STARTS NOW. Melissa & Olivia see each other for the first time in sixteen years - Olivia asks Melissa about the critically not-acclaimed novel American Dirt & the whiteness of the publishing industry, Melissa asks Olivia about the secret world of Tech Bros and that time she partied with Mark Zuckerberg.
EP. 40 - BEING A YOUNG POP STAR, GOING INDIE & WHY IS LANA DEL REY DATING A COP? w/ SHAMIR
December 19, 2019 20:27 - 48 minutes - 111 MBMelissa & Olivia chat with Shamir, a musician/icon based out of Philly, who had a taste of arenas and the world of mass produced pop music & chose his mental health instead.
EP. 29 - AMAZON, NO MUSIC FOR ICE & BULLYING JEFF BEZOS w/ SADIE DUPUIS
December 12, 2019 18:37 - 45 minutes - 104 MBSadie Dupuis, poet, multi-instrumentalist, and lead vocalist of Speedy Ortiz, stops by the pod to talk to Olivia & Melissa about starting NO MUSIC FOR ICE, an initiative to keep music out of the hands of corporate monsters and ultimately, bully Jeff Bezos for the rest of his stupid life.
EP. 39 - AMAZON, NO MUSIC FOR ICE & BULLYING JEFF BEZOS w/ SADIE DUPUIS
December 12, 2019 18:37 - 45 minutes - 104 MBSadie Dupuis, poet, multi-instrumentalist, and lead vocalist of Speedy Ortiz, stops by the pod to talk to Olivia & Melissa about starting NO MUSIC FOR ICE, an initiative to keep music out of the hands of corporate monsters and ultimately, bully Jeff Bezos for the rest of his stupid life.
Episode 38: DISCWOMAN, Appropriation & the world of techno w/ Frankie Hutchinson
December 05, 2019 18:34 - 48 minutes - 112 MBOlivia & Melissa talk to Frankie Hutchinson of Discwoman, one of the co-founders of a talent agency for electronic music. They also talk about how much they loved Carmen Maria Machado's new book, Melissa's obsession with a Greek Myth, & how Olivia got slammed by a surfboard.
EP. 37 MINISODE - ALL OF MY PLANTS ARE TURNING BLACK
November 21, 2019 21:44 - 15 minutes - 36 MBOlivia & Melissa read out spooky stories from listeners, one of which involves a cursed succulent. But maybe all succulents are cursed? Edited, mastered and scored by Natasha Jacobs.
EP. 36 - SOFAR SOUNDS, SPOTIFY, & HOW CAPITALISM RUINED MUSIC w/ LIZ PELLY
November 14, 2019 17:22 - 49 minutes - 113 MBOlivia & Melissa chat with writer, Liz Pelly, who dives deep into the exploitation of artists by streaming platforms, the appropriation of the "house show" through venues like SoFar Sounds, & how we can be more conscious music listeners.