My guest today is Kathy McCabe. Springing from an award-winning membership website she launched in 2002, Kathy has been non-stop producing Dream of Italy in writing, podcast and public television form with entertaining results. What makes Kathy’s work to inspire fulfilling Italy travel unique is the promise of the whole package: Where to go, who to meet, what to see, where to stay and what to eat.

Kathy’s drive to do this deep dive into Italy began by seeking her great-grandfather’s birthplace, and has empowered her to create her own intimate relationship with the country - with all of us along for the ride. Kathy adores food, and her show proves it. Here’s our chat.