My guest this week is Greg Matza. If you don't recognize the name, you're in that special column of folks that is about to realize that you should know that name.  He's my brother from another mother, the Milli to my Vanilli, the Humperdink to my Engelberg. Long story short, he and I started our creative partnership at a staff retreat ahead of our first summer working for the Family Vacation Center at UC Santa Barbara. Family camp. And i do mean CAMP.
He or I started singing Hey There from Pajama Game and the other joined in from across the room and that was our first collaboration in entertainment. Since then, we've produced 2 plays, 4 cookbooks, 3 web series, 1 film and dozens of unfinished works of brilliance. Sure, he's a successful Silicon Valley salesman and his common law father in law, father in common law? Oh whatever, just won the nobel prize in economics. But, at the end of the day,  he is my oldest friend, one with whom I share 23 years of travel stories. Man do we eat well. Here's our chat.