Sydney, Australia hostage taking and killing of hostages & the radical 'Imam'. And Peshawar, Pakistan, targeted killing of more than 100 children. Who are we dealing with? In Sydney? In Canada? In Peshawar? Should we be concerned about so-called 'soft target' attacks and killings in Canada, the U.S. and other Western nations? If there is an effective way to counter radicalization and what do two Canadian Muslims, one a former jihadi, say is the manner in which to accomplish this objective?

Guests:
- Robert Muhammad Heft, President of Paradise Forever Centre, Toronto. Imam and convert to Islam. Works with RCMP/CSIS on de-radicalizing of young men and women.

- Mubin Shaikh, @Caliphatecop. Book: Undercover Jihadi. Infiltrated Toronto 18, for RCMP/CSIS and testified in court against them. Embraced violent Jihadi views at age 19. Travelled to Syria to study Arabic and Islamic Studies. Eventually gave up the violent jihadi position and volunteered to work with CSIS/RCMP.

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Sydney, Australia hostage taking and killing of hostages & the radical 'Imam'. And Peshawar, Pakistan, targeted killing of more than 100 children. Who are we dealing with? In Sydney? In Canada? In Peshawar? Should we be concerned about so-called 'soft target' attacks and killings in Canada, the U.S. and other Western nations? If there is an effective way to counter radicalization and what do two Canadian Muslims, one a former jihadi, say is the manner in which to accomplish this objective?

Guests:
- Robert Muhammad Heft, President of Paradise Forever Centre, Toronto. Imam and convert to Islam. Works with RCMP/CSIS on de-radicalizing of young men and women.

- Mubin Shaikh, @Caliphatecop. Book: Undercover Jihadi. Infiltrated Toronto 18, for RCMP/CSIS and testified in court against them. Embraced violent Jihadi views at age 19. Travelled to Syria to study Arabic and Islamic Studies. Eventually gave up the violent jihadi position and volunteered to work with CSIS/RCMP.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.