Matthew and Neale join Kathryn to talk about how the government is handling the Covid-19 outbreak and what options Cabinet has to ease the burden of the disease. They'll also look at delays to gun reform legislation, John Tamihere's decision to stand for the Maori Party and Jeanette Fitzsimon's legacy. Matthew Hooton is an Auckland based consultant and lobbyist. Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations.