Kathryn speaks with RNZ political editor Jane Patterson from Washington DC, where Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has met with US president Joe Biden earlier today. The pair have acknowledged more work needs to be done in the Pacific, as China's foreign minister continues a whirlwind tour of Pacific nations. Kathryn will also talk with international relations expert Professor Robert Patman about the shifting politics in the region and how individual states are reacting to China's move.