The Labour Party says 6,000 public servants would lose their jobs if National leads the next government.
National's plan outlines $2.3 billion of cuts to public services each year.
But Labour says its figures don't add up and a third more cuts would have to be made, making its cuts to public services more than $3 billion every year.
Yesterday we sat down with National's Christopher Luxon for an extended interview.
Today it is Labour's Chris Hipkins turn. Hipkins spoke to Ingrid Hipkiss.