On today's episode, Alan has a candid conversation with Flatirons Church Lead Pastor, Jim Burgen, and Executive Pastor, Jesse DeYoung, talk candidly and openly about the importance of sabbaticals, How not to approach a sabbatical, and how Jim returned from sabbatical leading from a posture of health.

Listen to Jim and Jesse on episode 515 of the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast. 

https://careynieuwhof.com/episode515/

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