#475 France’s Youngest Shepherd - Richard has come to Exeter, where there is some very bad news about the bins. His guest is amazing actor and comedy genius Spencer Jones. They talk about how a last minute self-tape got him a recurring role in Ted Lasso, where Death in Paradise meets Milton, how his first double act led to him losing his virginity and then his bottle, the extraordinary sequence of events that led to his first TV show, whether finger-wagging admonishment might make the bad guys of history reconsider their actions, whether moving back to Devon was a good idea, the importance of how you look walking on to stage, the electric heat of creating comedy on stage and how he came up with the character of the Herbert and whether there has been any reaction to Upstart Crow from Ricky Gervais.


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