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Rethinking Youth Ministry | A podcast for youth ministry leaders, pastors, volunteers, and anyone who cares about students

109 episodes - English - Latest episode: almost 4 years ago - ★★★★ - 180 ratings

The Rethinking Youth Ministry Podcast is for youth ministry leaders, pastors, volunteers, workers, and anyone who cares about middle school and high school students. Each episode, we hope to raise the bar for youth ministry by asking questions, interviewing thinkers, and having real, honest conversations about what it looks like to lead the next generation. Rethinking Youth Ministry is a podcast from the Orange Students team. Our mission is to help you, the youth leader, influence the next generation. We do that through this podcast, other resources, and our weekly curriculum, XP3. If you'd like to learn more, check out OrangeStudents.com.

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Episodes

RYM 101: Rethinking New Health And Safety Measures For Your Youth Ministry

June 08, 2020 07:30 - 38 minutes - 36.3 MB

As youth ministry leaders, we're all asking a lot of questions when it comes to health and safety. What's our plan for hosting in-person gatherings? How do we keep our students safe? What protocols should we put in place? This week, join us as we talk with Frank Bealer, CEO of Phase Family Center, to learn what reopening safely could look like for your youth ministry—whether your youth ministry is planning on gathering in-person four days from now or four months from now.

RYM 100: Leading And Training Youth Ministry Volunteers to Re-Engage After A Crisis

May 28, 2020 16:45 - 46 minutes - 64.8 MB

No matter where you are right now, it’s safe to say you’ve been affected by the COVID-19 crisis. We’ve experienced uncertainty and crisis like never before as we’ve navigated this pandemic in our communities. As youth workers, we’ve pivoted to keep showing up for our students and our volunteers—even when we can’t be “with” them. So, what now? What do we do to keep showing up for students and volunteers as many of us near the end of sheltering-in-place to embrace a whole new normal in our wor...

RYM 099: What's Going On In A Teenager's Brain In Moments Of Despair And Grief

April 02, 2020 07:30 - 40 minutes - 75 MB

When teenagers experience feelings of despair and grief, it can often lead to outcomes like disconnecting relationally and shutting down emotionally. And yet, it's in these moments that students need healthy relationships and emotional support the most. So what does it look like to support our students in times of despair and grief? Join us as we unpack what's happening in a student's brain in moments like these and talk about how we can help teens better process despair and grief going forw...

RYM Extra: A Free Digital Easter Experience For Your Whole Family Ministry

March 27, 2020 16:03 - 34 minutes - 64.1 MB

Easter is a huge celebration for the Church, but as we all know, Easter looks a lot different this year. In light of COVID-19, we’re all experiencing quite a bit of tension planning Easter and figuring out how to make the best of this situation we’re facing. In this episode, the Orange Kids and Orange Students teams talk about an exciting new resource to help the families in your church have an Easter that’s accessible to everyone.

RYM 098: What You Need To Know About Being SINGLE In Youth Ministry (Even If You're Married)

March 19, 2020 07:30 - 49 minutes - 69.3 MB

Single people leading and volunteering in youth ministry often face some unique challenges in the church—especially when it comes to things like relational expectations, time and margin assumptions, and connecting with married people. That’s why the way we talk about and treat single people in our ministries matters so much. This week, join single and married ministry leaders as they unpack what it looks like to navigate the tensions, benefits, and more of being single youth ministry leaders.

RYM Extra: Coronavirus And Digital Service Ideas For Your Youth Ministry

March 16, 2020 12:39 - 37 minutes - 69.1 MB

As a ministry leader, you're navigating big decisions about whether to cancel services, continue youth ministry gatherings, or find a digital solution. In this episode, we talk about what it might look like to continue pouring into students in your ministry and community digitally in these uncertain times. Please visit the show notes at RethinkingYM.org to download the FREE Digital Service Guide resource that goes along with this episode.

RYM 097: Fake It Until You Make It - Fighting Imposter Syndrome As A Youth Ministry Leader

March 10, 2020 06:30 - 34 minutes - 48.7 MB

No matter how many years you’ve been serving and communicating as a youth ministry leader, self-doubt can creep in and leave you wondering if you’re doing it well—or worse, if you should even be doing it at all. This feeling is often referred to as imposter syndrome. How can we get past this often-crippling fear that we don’t belong? In this episode, we’ll talk about what it looks like to overcome imposter syndrome and take steps toward being the leaders and communicators our ministries need.

RYM 096: Creating Trainings Your Small Group Leaders And Volunteers WANT To Attend

March 03, 2020 07:30 - 51 minutes - 95.2 MB

There's no shortage of topics that could come up in small group with middle school and high school students—theology, dating, anxiety, family dynamics, the list goes on. And as ministry leaders, we need to be training our SGLs ahead of time for these kinds of conversations. But what does a GREAT training event look like? This week, we’re talking about what kinds of training events your SGLs need and what it takes to put together a training event that your volunteers actually WANT to attend.

RYM 095: What To Do With The HOMESCHOOLERS In Your Youth Ministry

February 25, 2020 07:30 - 45 minutes - 84.9 MB

“What school do you go to?” is often one of the first questions we ask new students in our youth ministries. And every now and then the answer is, “I'm homeschooled.” And while, in a lot of ways, homeschoolers are just like the other students in our ministries, the truth is, they have some unique needs as well. In this episode, we discuss some of the specific issues and challenges homeschoolers are facing and unpack a few of the best ways to connect with these students in our youth ministries.

RYM 094: Does Your Youth Ministry Need Small Group Leader COACHES?

February 18, 2020 07:30 - 46 minutes - 42.7 MB

Fact: Your Small Group Leaders are a pivotal part of what happens in your youth ministry. So the question is: What are you doing to make sure your SGLs are at their best every week? What are you doing to lead your leaders and make sure they feel cared for, equipped and encouraged? In this episode, we’re talking about the valuable role Small Group Leader COACHES can play, what to look for in a great SGL Coach, and what it practically looks like to launch an SGL coaching strategy in your minis...

RYM 093: Leadership Skills Every Youth Ministry Leader Needs To Develop (with Joel Manby)

February 11, 2020 07:30 - 52 minutes - 48.7 MB

With so much energy spent investing in our students and volunteers, we often forget to invest in ourselves as youth ministry leaders. And with limited resources—and even more limited time—figuring out which leadership skills to focus on developing can be even more challenging. This week we’re joined by Joel Manby to talk about some of the most important leadership skills you need to develop as a ministry leader and what it looks like to take steps to become the leader your youth ministry nee...

RYM 092: How To Protect Your Youth Ministry From Lawsuits

February 04, 2020 07:30 - 51 minutes - 48 MB

It's not fun or easy to talk about, and yet it's potentially one of the most important things to address as a ministry leader: How do you protect your youth ministry from legal action? In this episode we’re joined by leaders Candice Wynn, Tom Shefchunas, and Dr. Darren Kizer to discuss the realities of the world we live in today and some of the steps we can take to keep our students safe and protect our ministries from potential lawsuits and legal action.

RYM 091: Caring For Immigrant Students In Your Youth Ministry

January 28, 2020 07:30 - 59 minutes - 109 MB

As youth leaders, we have the responsibility to be intentional in the ways we serve all of our students, including those who have diverse family dynamics, backgrounds, and even cultures. In this episode, join us as we hear Jean Sohn and Esther Gray share their experiences growing up as immigrant students, and unpack what it can look like for all of us to better serve immigrant students—and their families—in our ministries going forward.

RYM 090: 2020 Gen Z Trends - What You Need To Know About As A Youth Ministry Leader

January 21, 2020 07:30 - 58 minutes - 108 MB

TikTok. Marijuana use. Anxiety. Flexitarian diets. Text message therapy. These are just a few of the Gen Z trends emerging in 2020. But what do trends like these mean for our ministries going forward? Should they impact what we're doing week to week as youth leaders? This week, join us as we discuss why we should care about cultural trends as youth leaders, where this next generation of students is heading, and what we can do to better connect and engage with the students we lead along the w...

RYM 089: Your Stories From The 2019 Year In Youth Ministry

December 17, 2019 07:30 - 33 minutes - 30.7 MB

This week we’re closing out the year with a special episode, where we turn the microphone over to you—our youth ministry community! Join us as we take time to reflect on and share some of the stories that have made 2019 a year to remember in ministry. We hope these stories help remind you of the impact of what you do and inspire you to keep going as we gear up for another exciting year of ministry.

RYM 088: WHY And HOW To Leverage YouTube As A Youth Ministry Leader

December 10, 2019 07:30 - 59 minutes - 55.1 MB

YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world, and research tells us that about 90% of Gen Z uses YouTube on a daily basis. What started as video hosting platform years ago has become an unprecedented opportunity for youth ministries to connect with students in unique and exciting ways. In this episode, we’re talking with social media experts and ministry leaders about some of the ways we can begin to leverage YouTube to engage students in our communities and around the world.

RYM 087: Taking Care Of Your Own Mental Health As A Youth Ministry Leader

December 03, 2019 08:30 - 52 minutes - 48.8 MB

If you work with students, you're probably aware of the mental health crisis happening in student culture today. At the same time though, sometimes it's easy to forget that these issues don't end when we become adults. In other words, as youth ministry leaders, we are not immune to issues regarding mental health. This week, we sit down with Dr. Chinwé Williams to discuss how mental health can impact our ministries and what we can do as youth leaders to take care of our own mental health.

RYM 086: Creating And Sustaining A Healthy Small Groups Culture In Your Youth Ministry

November 26, 2019 07:30 - 59 minutes - 54.8 MB

Discipling students doesn’t happen from a stage—it happens in the context of relationships. That’s why creating a healthy small groups culture is such a vital part of youth ministry—but one that takes a lot of hard work. On this episode, youth leaders and small group leaders chat about the ins and outs of what it takes to create, sustain, and grow a healthy, relationship-based small groups culture in your youth ministry.

RYM 085: How To Navigate Hard Conversations With Students In Youth Ministry

November 19, 2019 07:30 - 44 minutes - 41.2 MB

Whether you've already had some tough conversations with some students in your ministry, or whether you haven’t walked that road yet, here’s the truth: Tough conversations are bound to happen at some point for everyone who works with students. That's why it's crucial for us to be prepared and equipped for those moments when they come up. In this episode, we’re talking about what to do when a student comes to you with something difficult, how to respond, and the best way to maintain their tru...

RYM 084: Why Working With Parents Doesn’t Seem To Be Working In Youth Ministry (And What You Can Do About It)

November 12, 2019 07:30 - 59 minutes - 54.3 MB

If we’re being honest, oftentimes connecting with the parents of our students feels tedious and unproductive. But, as much as we might like to solely work with our students, the truth is, parents are the most influential people in our students’ lives. In this episode, we’re talking all about what to do when partnering with parents doesn't seem to be working and what you can do to provide parents with resources, build trust, and equip your small group leaders to do the same.

RYM 083: A Student In My Youth Ministry Just Started Following Jesus . . . NOW WHAT?

October 29, 2019 06:30 - 41 minutes - 38 MB

As youth ministry leaders, we spend a ton of our time and energy creating environments, refining messages, and organizing events—all with the goal of helping students discover who Jesus is. But once a student decides to follow Jesus . . . then what? In this episode, we talk about what it looks like to lead students AFTER they've placed their faith in Jesus. In our conversation, we discuss the role of SGLs, how to talk to parents, and what’s at stake if we let students fall through the cracks.

RYM 082: Why And HOW To Stay Creative As A Youth Ministry Leader

October 22, 2019 06:30 - 49 minutes - 45.4 MB

Most of us have big ideas and plans when we begin working in the world of youth ministry. We have programming ideas, series ideas, retreat ideas, outreach event ideas, and more. And while we probably implement some of those creative plans, over time, the creativity and innovation muscle in us tends to wane. On this episode, we’re talking about the dangers of becoming stagnant creatively, what to do when you’re stuck in a creative rut, and how to bring creativity back to your youth ministry.

RYM 081: Why Curating FUN Is A CRUCIAL Part Of Every Youth Ministry

October 15, 2019 06:30 - 38 minutes - 35.3 MB

If there's one thing virtually all youth ministries and youth ministry leaders have in common, it's this: We like to play games and have FUN! But are we just having fun for fun's sake, or is there more to it than that? In this episode, we talk about why having fun is a CRUCIAL part of every youth ministry. We also discuss how, as ministry leaders, we can lean into FUN to help students break down walls and grow in relationships, leading to deeper, potentially life-changing moments and convers...

RYM 080: What To Do When Real Life Collides With Youth Ministry

October 08, 2019 06:30 - 43 minutes - 40.5 MB

Youth ministry leaders aren’t exempt from the tougher moments and seasons of life. And whether it's a difficult relationship, financial mess, unexpected illness of a loved one, or something else, when life gets hard and we want to check out, we still have students who need us to show up week after week. Join us this week as we talk about what it looks like to lead a youth ministry well and navigate life's difficult moments at the same time—and in a healthy way.

RYM 079: How To (Not) Emotionally Manipulate Your Students In Youth Ministry

October 01, 2019 06:30 - 56 minutes - 51.9 MB

There’s a complicated relationship between emotions and faith. And if we’re honest, as youth ministry leaders, sometimes it can be tempting to leverage our students’ emotions to help them make big faith and life decisions. But is that necessarily a bad thing? Join us this week as we talk about how we can avoid accidentally emotionally manipulating our students, and what it looks like for our students' emotions to play a healthy role in their lives and faith going forward.

RYM 078: Can MS & HS Students Thrive In A Combined Youth Ministry Environment?

September 24, 2019 06:30 - 51 minutes - 47.1 MB

There are tons of differences between a 6th grader and a senior in high school. Can they both thrive in the same environment? Can they both thrive in the same environment? That's the question we're wrestling with this week. In our conversation, we discuss the developmental differences between MS and HS students, the importance of varied communication styles, and unique ways we can connect with each phase inside and outside of large group.

RYM 077: Why You Need To Market Your Youth Ministry

September 17, 2019 13:28 - 41 minutes - 38.7 MB

For many of us, the word “marketing” conjures up unsettling, slightly slimy images of trying to sell people things they don’t need. But the truth is, marketing doesn’t have to be this way! That’s why this week, we’re talking about a different kind of marketing—the generous kind that invites people to be a part of something great. In our conversation, we discuss why your ministry needs to start marketing and how it can help you spread the message of God’s love to more people than ever before.

RYM 076: What Can We Do About Student Anxiety As Youth Ministry Leaders?

September 10, 2019 06:30 - 45 minutes - 42.4 MB

Anxiety among middle school and high school students has been rising rapidly in recent years. In fact, anxiety disorders are now the most common mental illnesses among students, affecting about 25 percent of all teens—and these are just the reported cases. That’s why this week, we sit down with Licensed Professional Counselor, Kayla Lin, along with Sara Shelton and Marquise Cox, to talk about why student anxiety is on the rise and what we can do as youth leaders to walk with and support stud...

RYM 075: What To Do Your First Year At A New Church As A Youth Ministry Leader

September 03, 2019 06:30 - 48 minutes - 45 MB

Youth ministry leaders face unique challenges in their first year at a new church. From connecting with students to managing expectations from leadership to getting to know the church’s culture, it can be tough to acclimate, let alone feel confident making decisions. In this episode of Rethinking Youth Ministry, we unpack these challenges and more as we discuss steps youth leaders can take to adapt more quickly and make the most of the earlier days.

RYM 074: How To Increase Student Attendance Frequency In Your Youth Ministry

August 27, 2019 06:30 - 34 minutes - 32.3 MB

On average, how often are your students showing up to youth group? Once a month? Twice a month? Once every six weeks? The truth is, attendance numbers aren’t the most important measures of success in youth ministry—but they still matter. That’s why this week, we’re talking about ways we can start encouraging our students to show up more frequently by engaging them in specific ways through our programming and throughout the week.

RYM 073: What Reggie Joiner Is Rethinking About Youth Ministry

August 20, 2019 06:30 - 52 minutes - 49.3 MB

This week, as we kick off Season 3 of Rethinking Youth Ministry, we’re joined by founder and CEO of Orange, Reggie Joiner, and Orange’s Executive Director of Student Strategy, Crystal Chiang. Together, they’ll unpack and discuss several things they’re thinking—or rethinking—about the world of youth ministry today.

RYM 072: What Should Your Youth Ministry Be Doing Over The Summer?

May 28, 2019 06:30 - 49 minutes - 46.1 MB

As the school year comes to an end and with summer quickly approaching, it’s easy to become a little more relaxed in our youth ministries. But is that a good thing? Should we really be slowing things down over the summer, or is this the time to invest more in our connections with students? In this episode, join ministry leaders as they discuss the pros and cons of summer programming and what it looks like to implement an effective summer strategy.

RYM 071: Supporting Lower-Income Students and Families in Youth Ministry

May 21, 2019 06:30 - 48 minutes - 45.2 MB

Economic diversity exists everywhere. Which means, if we’re hoping to connect with every student in our community, we must consider the unique ways we can support and serve students of various economic backgrounds—including those from lower-income families. On this episode, join us for an honest conversation about what it looks like to minimize assumptions, partner with parents, and best serve students in lower-income situations.

RYM 070: How To Plan Your Next Big Youth Ministry Event

May 14, 2019 06:30 - 52 minutes - 49.5 MB

Have you ever been in charge of a youth ministry event that completely flopped? If you have, you're not alone. The truth is, even though events are a staple in youth ministry, they’re not always easy to pull off. In fact, putting together an awesome event that students will love can be one of the toughest things to do. In this episode, join youth leaders as they talk about the best and worst events they’ve planned and the things every leader needs to consider while planning their next big ev...

RYM 069: What Every Children’s Pastor Wishes Their Youth Pastor Knew

May 07, 2019 07:30 - 39 minutes - 37.5 MB

There’s often an underlying tension between children’s ministries and youth ministries—or between children's pastors and youth pastors—in the church. But why? What's causing the tension and what's keeping these two ministries from working together efficiently. On this episode, join children's ministry leaders and youth ministry leaders as they discuss what every children’s pastor wishes their youth pastor knew (and vice versa) and share how the two ministries can begin working better together.

RYM 068: Creating A Great Youth Ministry Environment On Any Budget

April 30, 2019 07:30 - 50 minutes - 47.4 MB

Your youth ministry environment is communicating something—whether you’re intentional about it or not. The question is, what is it communicating? As students walk through your ministry’s doors each week, is the environment saying what you want it to? This week on the podcast, join us for a conversation about the impact an environment can have on a student’s sense of belonging and the growth of their faith, and how you can create a great environment on ANY budget.

RYM 067: Navigating The Tension Between Science And Faith In Youth Ministry

April 23, 2019 07:30 - 48 minutes - 45.2 MB

Science and faith. For many students, these two categories seem incompatible. But are science and faith really as disconnected as our students might be led to believe? Let's face it—these days, students are asking some pretty complex questions about the way science fits into our faith and vice versa. This week, join us for a transparent conversation all about the best ways to talk about science and faith in youth ministry—even when you don’t have all the answers.

RYM 066: Are Your Student Mission Trips Really Helping Or Hurting?

April 16, 2019 06:30 - 46 minutes - 42.7 MB

For many of us in youth ministry, mission trips are a part of our yearly rhythm. And while these trips seem life-changing on the surface, are they really all they’re cracked up to be? This week, we’re joined by Henok Berhanu, founder and CEO of Carry 117 and host to dozens of mission teams every year in Ethiopia. Together, we discuss the biggest mistake student mission teams make, the importance of cultural awareness, and why relationship building can be even more impactful than financial gi...

RYM 065: Leading Students Of The Opposite Gender

April 09, 2019 06:30 - 38 minutes - 35.9 MB

In the unrelenting pace of student ministry, it’s easy to slip into the “I’ve got this. How hard can it be to talk to someone of the opposite gender?” mentality. But there are differences, and those differences should be considered when tailoring your communication styles to the students you serve week after week. In this episode, join ministry leaders in a conversation about the best ways to connect and engage with students of the opposite gender and learn the importance of having equal rep...

RYM 064: What To Do When Students Find Their Identity In Sports, Band, And More

April 02, 2019 07:30 - 55 minutes - 52.4 MB

Sports and church. We’ve wrestled through this conversation before and we’re back to tackle it again. On this episode, join Stuart Hall, Dan Scott, Ashley Bohinc, and Sarah Anderson for a follow-up conversation on the tensions between church and extracurricular activities, what identity has to do with it, and what youth leaders can do for students who find their identity in sports, band, theater, and more.

RYM 063: How To Help Parents And Teenagers Connect About Life And Faith At Home

March 26, 2019 07:00 - 44 minutes - 42.4 MB

It's no secret that parents and teenagers don't always see eye to eye. Yet, as ministry leaders, we know just how important it is for parents and teenagers to connect throughout the middle school and high school years. This week, join the Orange Students team for a conversation with Dr. Kara Powell on what youth leaders can do to help parents and teens connect about life and faith at home, and how your church can be a place that helps families grow WITH one other—instead of growing apart.

RYM 062: Sunday School Or Small Groups?

March 19, 2019 07:30 - 53 minutes - 50.9 MB

Is a small groups model better than a Sunday school model? And should your church really consider a shift from Sunday school to small groups? This week, join some of the Orange students team for a candid conversation all about the benefits and drawbacks of both Sunday school and small group strategies, and how to tell whether or not it's time for your ministry to make a shift.

RYM 061: Understanding How You're Wired As A Youth Ministry Leader

March 12, 2019 07:30 - 40 minutes - 38.4 MB

We’re all wired in our own way, and it’s likely that looks different from the people around us. And while that might seem obvious, what's not always obvious is how the way we're wired can affect the ministries we lead. That’s why it’s so important to spend time getting to know yourself! On this episode, join ministry leaders for a conversation about understanding how you’re wired and how knowing yourself better can help you become a more effective youth ministry leader.

RYM 060: Coaching SGLs To Show Up Randomly In Students' Lives

March 05, 2019 08:30 - 31 minutes - 30.8 MB

Showing up for students outside of youth group can seem like an overwhelming task for your Small Group Leaders. But the truth is, when we show up in students lives when we don’t have to—when we show up randomly—it can have a huge impact. On this episode, join some of the Orange Students team for a conversation with youth pastor Katie Matsumoto about coaching SGLs to show up randomly and the potential impact it can have in our students’ lives.

RYM 059: What Should Your Youth Ministry Be Doing On Social Media?

February 26, 2019 08:30 - 55 minutes - 52.3 MB

Most students are on social media every day, which means we should be there too, right? Maybe. On this episode, join some of the Orange Students team as they discuss the benefits and drawbacks of having your youth ministry on social media. Through their conversation, you'll find out what your youth ministry should—and shouldn't—be doing on social media and what it could look like for you to start engaging students in a digital world this week.

RYM 058: The Effects of Social Media on Students

February 19, 2019 08:30 - 56 minutes - 53.1 MB

Even though the most popular social media platforms might change, one thing is certain: Social media is here to stay. The question is, how is it affecting us? This week, join ministry leaders and Social Media Pastor Dave Adamson as they talk about the effects of social media on our students, how we can better partner with parents in this area, and what it looks like for a student to have a healthy relationship with social media.

RYM 057: How To Ask For A Raise As A Youth Ministry Leader

February 12, 2019 08:30 - 54 minutes - 51.8 MB

No one likes to have the money conversation. And as youth workers, we know that we’re not paid what we’re worth in ministry, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be compensated appropriately for the work that we do. On this episode, join ministry leaders for a conversation all about asking for a raise: the best time to ask, what you should take into consideration when preparing to ask, and how to start the conversation with your leadership.

RYM 056: Why Should We Care About Race In Our Youth Ministries?

February 05, 2019 08:30 - 1 hour - 59.5 MB

As youth workers, our goal is to prepare our students to be a light wherever they go—especially when it comes to navigating issues like race. This week, join Stuart Hall, Sam Collier, Gerald Fadayomi, and Sarah Anderson for an important conversation on why we should care about race in our youth ministries, what's at stake if we don’t, and how you can diversify your ministry’s context and your personal world as a youth worker.

RYM 055: Finding Success As A Bivocational Youth Ministry Leader

January 29, 2019 08:30 - 42 minutes - 40.2 MB

It’s no surprise that being a bivocational youth ministry worker comes with a unique set of challenges—like two bosses, two workplaces, and split priorities every week. But in the midst of those challenges, are there ways we can maximize the time we DO have in our ministries and with our students? On this episode, join ministry leaders for a conversation about navigating obstacles and finding success influencing the next generation as a bivocational youth worker.

RYM 054: Help! My Youth Ministry Numbers Plateaued!

January 22, 2019 08:30 - 37 minutes - 36.2 MB

We all know that attendance numbers can fluctuate in youth ministry from week to week. But over time, we all hope to see attendance trending UP. But what do you do when numbers aren't going up—when they're plateauing or even going DOWN? In this episode, join local ministry leaders as they talk about how to identify a real attendance plateau, how to track important data in your ministry, and how knowing these key components can help set up your ministry for growth going forward.