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#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money
The Pathless Path with Paul Millerd
English - March 18, 2024 19:09 - 1 hour - 77.4 MB - ★★★★★ - 30 ratingsCareers Business careers paul millerd unconventional paths digital nomad creator economy youtube twitter people Homepage Download Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Overcast Castro Pocket Casts RSS feed
Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids.
Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.
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(00:00) - Intro
(03:14) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with
(06:00) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning
(12:52) - The cocoon stage
(15:05) - Deciding to quit
(19:25) - Learning from others on the path and having children
(26:18) - Trust
(29:29) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work
(35:26) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness
(39:36) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve
(48:45) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you
(52:43) - Downshift & Ambition
(01:03:14) - Marriage & Family
(01:11:02) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal
(01:17:23) - Launching decelerator
(01:21:34) - Closing remarks
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