This episode we talk about Cricket South Africa's Social Justice and Nation-Building hearings, which is their attempt to let past players tell their stories about racist treatment they’ve received. So I got on Lungani Zama, a journalist who was also once a player. We chat about stereotypes, opportunity, old boys, quotas, rugby, and what it's like to be chosen only to field from third man to third man.

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Read his work here: https://www.newframe.com/writer/lungani-zama/.

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