(SPOILERS) Amy joins me to talk about her inspiration on writing the book, we get interrupted with news of Ashley & Kevin’s break up (5:10), producers with monetary incentives (10:16), the relationship in the early going of Mike Fleiss & Lisa Levenson which eerily resembles Chet & Quinn on “UnReal” (13:20), the contract, STD’s, and producer manipulation playing such a huge role in the show (21:26), how she role played with a former producer during a lunch date & thoughts on Elan Gale and his role with the franchise (28:08), Amy asks me about my treatment towards the men in this franchise (40:15), what led to her (probably) getting her coverage of the franchise revoked (48:50), and finally we wrap up talking about her coverage of the #MeToo movement for the LA Times (54:50).

Music written by Jimmer Podrasky (B'Jingo Songs/Machia Music/Bug Music BMI)