Emma and Abbe chat with Forever35 podcast hosts, Doree Shafrir and Kate Spencer, about books, authors, skincare, and self-care. Doree Shafrir is the author of the novel Startup, and the editor of an essay collection titled Love, Mom: Poignant, Goofy, Brilliant Messages from Home. Kate Spencer is the author of the memoir The Dead Moms Club.


As co-hosts of the podcast Forever35, Shafrir and Spencer often invite authors like Maeve Higgins and Jasmine Guillory to be guests on their show and discuss everything from their books to skincare and self-care. Emma and Abbe ask them all about their favorite books and authors—and face masks.


For more information about the books we discuss in this—and every—episode, visit us at readitforward.com/podcast