Toby Sumpter is a Pastor at Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho. He is also the host of CrossPolitic podcast and author of No Mere Mortals: Marriage for People Who Live Forever.

Toby talks about his book No Mere Mortals, which focuses on marriage from a Christian perspective. Starting from "up high," marriage is sacred and given by God. It is something Toby compares to a nuclear reactor. If done well, it provides great benefits, but if done wrong there are disasters consequences. Then he discusses the practical application side for marriage.

Philp Sharp talks about the competing ideas of what marriage is in our day. He also talks about Christmas and the FACT that it is a Christian holiday.