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Quilt & Tell

146 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 248 ratings

Every quilt has a story to tell. Tracy, Lori and Ginger from Quilting Daily cover the full spectrum of experience, from a third-generation quilter to a practicing novice, and pull inspiration from their distinct backgrounds. Each episode features a patchwork of in-depth conversations and engaging stories that appeal to quilters of all skill levels and all quilting genres.

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Episodes

We Have News - Episode 87

November 23, 2022 07:00 - 32 minutes

Tracy, Lori and Ginger have news—some good, some sad. Stay tuned to find out what is happening. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lori, Ginger, and Tracy – Back Again! - Episode 86

November 09, 2022 21:31 - 40 minutes

Lori and Ginger are back — and boy, do they have a lot to catch up on! Lori fills us in on her granddaughter’s quilt and her trip to Missouri Star. Then Ginger has big news you won’t want to miss. Tracy shares some scrap quilting inspiration and a project she is working on — so stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Quilt Escapes—On Location - Episode 85

October 26, 2022 06:00 - 33 minutes

Tracy goes on location with Sara Gallegos and Angela Huffman. The hosts of Love of Quilting are at The Slate Hotel in Denver at a Quilting Daily Quilt Escape event with a group of lucky quilters. Tracy decided to crash the party and chat with the duo. Stay Tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Behind The Scenes - Episode 84

October 12, 2022 06:00 - 23 minutes

Susan Brubaker Knapp and Vivika DeNegre from Quilting Arts treat us to something special today. They are in Colorado recording Quilting Arts TV, so we asked for a behind-the-scenes sneak peek into who will be on the next season of the show and what we can expect. This is the first time they have been in the same room since before the pandemic and they spill the tea on series 2900 of QATV. Stay Tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit m...

Quiltspirations 2022 - Episode 83

September 29, 2022 14:08 - 38 minutes

Tracy, Ginger and Lori are back for a chat-fest. Today they are talking about the projects that are currently inspiring them to quilt. Then we discuss the three feet we absolutely must bring to a desert island. Our Fine Finishes segment features Martha Higdon who is here to discuss the controversial topic of quilting vintage quilt tops on a longarm. Stay Tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Quilt & Tell Classic: Building a Quilting Empire - Episode 82

September 21, 2022 06:00 - 36 minutes

Tracy catches everyone up on the events of the summer, then shares one of her favorite guests with you. Jenny Doan talks about how her town Hamilton, Missouri, became a quilting destination, but we also talk about how she learned to sew and why her parents insisted upon signing her up for 4-H. Then stick around for a special Fine Finishes sponsored by HandiQuilter! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All Things Quilt Jacket - Episode 81

August 17, 2022 06:00 - 40 minutes

Lori and Ginger are flying alone in this episode while Tracy takes a well deserved break. Ginger shares a little about her amazing visit to Quilt Town USA while Lori tells us all about the upcoming quilt retreat in Texas and the many other quilts she has planned. The real news is that it's finally time for Lori and Ginger to tell everyone all about the Quilt Jacket Online Workshop Live Event! Meg Healy, host of the Sew & Tell Podcast and Editor of Sew News and Creative Machine Embroidery Maga...

Quilting Sneak Peeks and Surprises! - Episode 80

July 20, 2022 16:12 - 43 minutes

Quilt along with Christina Cameli while she is in the studio with Ginger on today’s episode! Ginger gets the inside scoop about a new workshop that is absolutely free that you are going to want to join in on the fun. Speaking of the inside scoop, don’t miss Lori’s mention of a quilted jacket workshop the hosts are planning with the Sew & Tell team. We have a controversial topic in this episode too—do you oversize and trim? Or make your patches exactly the size needed? Click here to view the ...

Quilting, Gardening, and Quilts of Valor® - Episode 79

July 06, 2022 14:56 - 41 minutes

A letter from a listener caught the attention of Lori, Tracy, and Ginger. It was about the presentation of a Quilt of Valor to a Vietnam veteran that had them wanting to talk to Debra Malone-Reeve. More mail hails from Germany! Stay tuned!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Love Stories, Quilts, and Travel - Episode 78

June 22, 2022 06:00 - 54 minutes

Novelist Patience Griffin joins Lori, Tracy, and Ginger to discuss love stories, quilts, and travel. Boy-oh-boy would the hosts want to join Patience on a trip to research one of her delightful books! This episode is filled with the usual catching up on what the hosts have been working on, then in the final segment, Tracy leaves everyone with a thought of the day. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*Best* Friends of the Podcast - Episode 77

June 08, 2022 06:00 - 1 hour

When Lori wasn’t available to record, Ginger and Tracy did a little digging only to find out that Teri Lucas was visiting Nebraska! A little begging ensued, and a little rearranging of the schedule, and this podcast is the result. We couldn’t do a show without Lori, now could we? Stay tuned to the end for letters from readers, plus bonus content!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rising Stars: Kellie Cotton - Episode 75

May 11, 2022 06:00 - 49 minutes

The Q&T team has found another rising star of the quilt world, Kellie Cotton of Laughing Otter Studios. Tracy, Lori and Ginger were blown away by her Baby Yoda mosaic quilt and love following her on Instagram and think you should all check her out. In Fine Finishes, Tracy and Ginger ask each other what advice would the beginner quilter in them give to their current quilter selves. Their answers may just surprise you.   Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ...

Rising Stars: Kellie Cotton - Episode 76

May 11, 2022 06:00 - 48 minutes

The Q&T team has found another rising star of the quilt world, Kellie Cotton of Laughing Otter Studios. Tracy, Lori and Ginger were blown away by her Baby Yoda mosaic quilt and love following her on Instagram and think you should all check her out. In Fine Finishes, Tracy and Ginger ask each other what advice would the beginner quilter in them give to their current quilter selves. Their answers may just surprise you.   Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ...

In-the-Hoop Fun! - Episode 75

April 27, 2022 06:00 - 52 minutes

Kim Christopherson of Kimberbell Designs joins Ginger, Tracy, and Lori on the show to talk about all the quilty fun you can have with in-the-hoop embroidery! In Fine Finishes, the discussion turns to sewing machines. What kind of quilter are you—a basic machine quilter or one who wants all the bells and whistles? (We know what kind Lori is, don’t we?) Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Playing Along, the IG Quiltfest Roundup - Episode 74

April 14, 2022 06:00 - 1 hour

Ginger and Tracy decided Lori needed to experience #IGQuiltfest for herself. In this episode, the hosts have a nice long chat sharing their favorite prompts from the month-long event on Instagram. Toward the end, they share tips for keeping your sewing machine in tip-top shape, so stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Podcast in Which Lori Fangirls - Episode 73

March 30, 2022 13:29 - 55 minutes

Gigi Levsen, the editor of McCall’s Quilting magazine, joins Lori, Ginger, and Tracy to chat about what it was like to work for Quilter’s Newsletter magazine, how she started quilting, and Lori shares stories of their days working together. In the final segment, Tracy reads letters from listeners. Stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gather up your Quilt Crumbs - Episode 72

March 16, 2022 06:00 - 37 minutes

Every quilter has quilt crumbs, in this episode Lori and Ginger talk with Emily Bailey of Aunt Em’s Quilts and she shares her tips and tricks for using your quilt crumbs completely. Emily shares her quilt journey and how fabric scraps have been apart of her jouney from day one.  Lori and Ginger get caught up and talk quilt challenges. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rising Stars- Shereece Spain - Episode 71

March 02, 2022 07:00 - 53 minutes

Tracy, Lori and Ginger are starting a new series of interviews where they spotlight up and coming quilters we should all know! In this episode, our chatty trio introduces rising star Shereece Spain from Sew Hooked on Treasures. After we get to know Shereece, Tracy shares not one, but two letters from our amazing listeners.  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This Podcast is on Fire! - Episode 70

February 16, 2022 07:00 - 59 minutes

The Quilter on Fire, Brandy Maslowski joins Lori, Ginger, and Tracy to chat about fangirling on quilters, chocolate, and what it is like to be a quilter and a firefighter. In the final segment, it is time to tackle an extremely controversial subject (AGAIN!). The hosts discuss the recent discussion in the quiltiverse—quilted clothing. Stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Celebrating with Bonnie Hunter - Episode 69

February 03, 2022 07:00 - 1 hour

Bonnie Hunter celebrates the 40th anniversary of Quiltmaker magazine and the Ruby Jubilee Mystery quilt along with Tracy, Lori, and Ginger! After the hosts catch up and have a rousing conversation about die cutting, Bonnie joins the show. In the final segment, there is mail. A listener writes in to ask about what kind of sewing machine you need to sew leather. Stay tuned!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Podcast Gold: The ”Pride & Joy” of Quilting - Episode 68

January 19, 2022 16:15 - 1 hour

Happy 2022! Tracy, Lori & and Ginger get all caught up after the holiday break and share all their finished holiday projects. In Open Studio, Foundation Paperpiece Quilt Designer & Maker Veruschka Zarate joins the podcast trio. Varuschka shares her quilting journey and her creative process when designing her foundation paperpieced portraits. In Fine Finishes, Lori poses the question to Ginger and Tracy, to paperpiece or not to paperpiece? Lori also shares a few great paper piecing tips in as ...

Podcast Gold: Operation Surprise Lori

December 22, 2021 07:00 - 59 minutes

Lori retired earlier this year so Tracy and Ginger have been planning a special gift that is finally ready thanks to this episode’s amazing guest, Aby Dolinger. Wait till you hear Tracy’s elaborate plan come together to surprise Lori with this gift, it’s truly podcast gold! In open studios Aby joins the ladies and tells how Lori’s surprise came together plus we get to hear all about Aby’s quilting journey. In Fine Finishes, Tracy, Lori and Ginger all tell tails of crafted gifts they have rece...

Podcast Gold: Operation Surprise Lori - Episode 67

December 22, 2021 07:00 - 59 minutes

Lori retired earlier this year so Tracy and Ginger have been planning a special gift that is finally ready thanks to this episode’s amazing guest, Aby Dolinger. Wait till you hear Tracy’s elaborate plan come together to surprise Lori with this gift, it’s truly podcast gold! In open studios Aby joins the ladies and tells how Lori’s surprise came together plus we get to hear all about Aby’s quilting journey. In Fine Finishes, Tracy, Lori and Ginger all tell tails of crafted gifts they have rece...

The Joy of Making for Others! - Episode 66

December 08, 2021 07:00 - 47 minutes

It’s just the ladies in this episode of Quilt &Tell. Tracy, Lori and Ginger chat about how much fun it is to make stuff for friends and family. In Fine Finishes, Tracy, Lori and Ginger talk about receiving and giving criticism. Both can be a challenge so don’t miss the loving nuggets of advice that they share with each other. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another Night at the Museum - Episode 65

November 24, 2021 07:00 - 53 minutes

Tracy, Lori and Ginger get caught up on their latest projects and Tracy announces a special holiday event for quilters that is happening this season! In our Open Studio segment, Jennifer Swope from the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston take us on a quilting adventure through the Fabric of a Nation quilt exhibit .  Our quilting trio finishes the episode with a two minutes of kindness call to action! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphon...

Back to the Beginner Brain - Episode 64

November 10, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour

Lori and Tracy are back from Houston, TX and share all the great times and beautiful quilts from The International Quilt Festival with Ginger who, of course, had a million questions! In our Open Studio segment, Ginger’s two worlds collide. Content Producer for Sew News Magazine, Creative Machine Embroidery, Sew Daily Network, and BurdaStyle Academy , Meg Healy, joins the podcast. Meg shares how she got started sewing and how she finally created her first baby quilt for her pet bunny and can’t...

Missing Quilt Market Bonus Episode

November 08, 2021 14:27 - 55 minutes

Welcome to a special “Crossover Bonus Episode” of the Quilt & Tell and Quilting Arts Podcasts! Join Tracy, Ginger, Lori, Susan, and Vivika as they talk to some of the people behind the scenes in the quilting industry. Yes, we know Market didn’t happen this year, but the quilting community is still going strong.  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Three! It’s a Magic and Mysterious Number - Episode 63

October 27, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour

Lori, Tracy and Ginger do a little catch-up at the top of the show and then Ginger interviews the most fabulous trio of quilters. Ebony Love, Gyleen Fitzgerald, and Latifah Saafir share their experience working together on their first mystery quilt-along, Parallel Universe.  Since their first collaboration was such a success, they share information about their second mystery quilt-along Elemental starting in 2022. This is an interview you don’t want to miss! Tracy ends the show sharing some o...

Sister Quilting Roadtrip - Episode 62

October 13, 2021 06:00 - 46 minutes

Lori and her sister, Angie Brown, take us along on their quilting adventure—and we are here for it! After Tracy, Lori, and Ginger check in and catch up, we travel to Nebraska quilt shops and the Quilt Museum, then head to Hamilton Missouri on a trip to remember! We also add a new segment—2-minutes of Kindness. Stay tuned for your call to action!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The “Be Kind” Fallout - Episode 61

September 22, 2021 06:00 - 53 minutes

After episode 59—Anything Sews! Tracy, Lori, and Ginger got a ton of feedback on Tracy’s PSA about being kind. So, after the hosts check in and catch up, they read letters from listeners. The letters are funny, inspiring, uplifting, and poignant. Stay tuned!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sew Many Projects! - Episode 60

September 08, 2021 15:57 - 42 minutes

Tracy, Lori, and Ginger chat about all kinds of things—from moving your quilt studio, to the things we are making, and all the things we dream of doing. Kate Colleran drops in to chat about how to think outside the box when making quilt patterns and being a guest on Love of Quilting TV. Stay tuned!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anything Sews! - Episode 59

August 25, 2021 06:00 - 52 minutes

Michelle Freedman joins Tracy, Lori, and Ginger to chat about her journey from fashion designer to quilter, and her position as graphic designer and marketing manager with Maywood Studio. In out Fine Finishes segment, we have a PSA. Stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Armchair Quilting - Episode 58

August 11, 2021 06:00 - 51 minutes

Tracy, Lori, and Ginger are having a staycation and traveling from their armchairs. First, they chat about what they are working on, then Tracy lists several museums that have some incredible exhibits—right now and in the very near future. Stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Designing a Quilt Life

July 28, 2021 06:01 - 45 minutes

Heather Black is in the studio today. She takes a break from filming to chat with the hosts about all the things she is doing—new online workshop, new book, new fabric line! Then in Fine Finishes, Lori, Ginger and Tracy talk about curved seams—to pin or not to pin. Stay tuned!  This episode is sponsored by Quilters Select. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Quilt Friends

July 14, 2021 14:35 - 59 minutes

Marti Michell is back to pick up where she left off! Marti helps Lori navigate quilt-as-you-go and it is fascinating to hear all the ways in which we can use this fun technique. In our final segment, Angela Huffman and Sara Gallegos drop in while they are filming Love of Quilting TV, so it is a fun show!   This episode is sponsored by The Grace Company. Tune in to listen to a special interview with Grace Company Education Specialist, Karla Gerome. She will be talking to Ginger about finishing...

Breaking: Season 7 Announcement

July 13, 2021 18:36 - 1 minute

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The Stories We Tell

June 30, 2021 06:01 - 59 minutes

Debby Brown joins the show to encourage us to relax with our quilting. She feels that quilting should feel like a warm hug and we love it! In our Fine Finishes segment, Proptologist Jay Duckworth joins the crew—and makes them cry! He created commemorative medals for our sewing machines so future generations know that they fought covid-19. Stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Read All About It

May 26, 2021 06:01 - 53 minutes

Episode 54, Read All About It Best-selling author Marie Bostwick joins the show to discuss her latest book The Restoration of Celia Fairchild. In Fine Finishes, we talk to Laura Coia from the popular YouTube channel Sew Very Easy. She talks about her latest project, The Travelling Quiltcase. Listen in! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Quilter Who Broke the Podcast

April 29, 2021 06:02 - 55 minutes

Episode 53, The Quilter Who Broke the Podcast The Tattooed Quilter, Christopher Thompson, broke the podcast. That’s right, he was talking and then it just stopped recording. But it’s all good! We managed to pull together a funny and sometimes touching episode for you. Listen in! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Quilting is Like Golf

March 31, 2021 06:02 - 40 minutes

Episode 52, Quilting is Like Golf Susan Cleveland is the guest on today’s show. She keeps the hosts in stitches as they talk about quilting during the pandemic, how she got the name “Pieces Be With You”, and mixing up quilting techniques in one quilt. Lori, Ginger, and Tracy recorded this before the Zoom Bee, so they chat about the quilts they finished. They read a letter from an international listener in the final segment. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about ...

Quilt & Tell Live: National Quilting Day Quiltin' Bee!

March 08, 2021 08:02 - 2 minutes

We're celebrating National Quilting Day, one of our favorite days of the year, with a fresh new virtual Quiltin' Bee! Join the hosts of the Quilt & Tell Podcast for a very special hour of fun and conversation dedicated to the love, skill, devotion, and creativity that goes into every quilt we make. Ask questions and win FREE stuff on Saturday, 3/20 at 2pm MST. Join us for the National Quilting Day Quilting' Bee sponsored by Maywood!  Join the Quilt & Tell, Quilt’n Bee 3/20 at 2pm MST by regis...

Bonus: Song Quilts with Fiber Nation

March 03, 2021 07:00 - 34 minutes

Enjoy this bonus episode from our sister podcast, Fiber Nation, with host Allison Korleski. Eliza Hardy Jones was a professional musician and an amateur quilter. Until a once-in-a-lifetime offer made her change her tune. Find out how she turns traditional folk music, sung by women, into a craft traditionally done by women. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. If you want to hear more of tales of textiles, craft, and culture, subscribe to Fiber Nation on Spotify, Apple Podcasts ...

A Quilting Garden

February 24, 2021 15:59 - 1 hour

Gyleen X. Fitzgerald joins Tracy, Lori and Ginger for the show. She talks about color, quilting during a pandemic, how many projects she has going at any particular time, and what she thinks about working on projects you hate. You will love it. Meanwhile, the hosts discuss the projects they are working on and read a few letters from listeners. Don’t miss the final segment where the next Quiltin’ Bee is announced!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad ch...

50th Episode Party!

January 27, 2021 15:50 - 1 hour

It’s the 50th episode of Quilt & Tell! Tracy, Lori and Ginger are planning the episode when they get unexpected guests—Kim Niedzwiecki, Victoria Findlay Wolfe, and Alex Anderson all decided to stop to reminisce and catch up. It becomes a star-studded surprise party when Bonnie Hunter, Teri Lucas, Jenny Doan, and Marti Michell all offer their congratulations and share fun stories about the show. This is a not-to-miss episode!  Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more abou...

Fireside Chat

December 30, 2020 07:00 - 40 minutes

It’s the last episode of 2020. Tracy, Lori and Ginger decided to sit by the fire and chat about the year, their favorite moments, and what they learned. It has been a hard year, but they seem to find the silver lining. Grab a cozy quilt and settle in to listen. Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your Quilting Journey

December 16, 2020 16:10 - 53 minutes

Brenda Groelz joins Tracy, Lori and Ginger to talk about her quilting journey and making it her career. For our Fine Finishes segment, we each pick a favorite moment that we found entertaining in previous segments. Don’t miss the letter from a listener who finally finished a quilt for her son. It’s one she started in the mid-1980’s! Stay tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join the Christmas-themed Quilt’n Bee!

December 15, 2020 19:37 - 48 seconds

What better way to celebrate the holiday season than to cozy up with a virtual Quilt’n Bee? Grab your latest quilting project, don your ugliest sweater, and tune in to join our hosts from the Quilt and Tell Podcast for an hour of festive projects! Ask questions and win FREE stuff on Friday, 12/18 at 2pm MST. Join the Quilt & Tell, Quilt’n Bee 12/18 at 2pm MST by registering with this Zoom link. Check back on our website for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.f...

Color Makes the Quilt

December 02, 2020 15:28 - 54 minutes

Giuseppe Ribaudo, aka Jiucy Jiuce, joins Tracy, Lori and Ginger to talk about fabric, quilting, and his journey. Diane Harris is our guest for the Fine Finishes segment. She is a HandiQuilter ambassador who joins us to talk fabric. Stay Tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Building a Quilting Empire

November 18, 2020 15:21 - 49 minutes

Jenny Doan joins Tracy, Lori and Ginger—get ready to laugh! Of course, we talk about how her town Hamilton, Missouri, became a quilting destination, but we also talk about how Jenny learned to sew and why her parents insisted upon signing her up for 4-H. Kristina Whitney is our guest for the Fine Finishes segment. She is a HandiQuilter educator who really gets our creative brains going as she explains how she crazy pieces on her longarm. Stay Tuned! Click here to view the show notes for this ...

Join us for another live Quilt’n Bee!

November 09, 2020 17:40 - 1 minute

Mark your calendars! Join Tracy, Lori and Ginger on Friday, 11/13 at 2pm MST for the Quilt & Tell, Quilt’n Bee on Zoom! Take an hour and join the podcast hosts working on and sharing their current projects. Join in to ask questions and even win some free stuff! Join the Quilt & Tell, Quilt’n Bee 10/16 at 2pm MST by registering with this Zoom link: https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwvfumrrzMoHdFushreAWqvaTXoBnDj7_4u Check out our website or more information. Learn more about your ad choices. ...