Episode 12a: The Simpsons Tackle Depression & Anxiety! Part 1: How The Simpsons evolved and shaped us (or didn’t) (with Nathan Phillips)

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Here we are in the Simpsons universe!

For our first part of episode 12, special guest Nathan Phillips and Steph look at the two episodes Moaning Lisa (Season 1 episode 6) and Fear of Flying (Season 6 episode 11), the history of the early Simpsons, and how accurate we believe their depictions of mental illness and therapy are, with a bit of our own experience thrown in. Nathan is a walking Simpsons encyclopedia living in North Carolina and Steph was banned from the Simpsons as a kid and has suffered as a result.

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CONTENT WARNING: Panic attacks and anxiety symptoms, phobia of flying, discussion of plane crashes, depression, coercive control, mental illness stigma, suicide, misogyny/toxic masculinity/shit husbandry, homophobia/transphobia

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Nathan Phillips

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

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REFERENCES!:

They Shoot Lambeths Don't They?: How 'Moaning Lisa' Tackled Depression and it's Outcomes 

The Andrew Blog: How 'Moaning Lisa' Learns to Make Something Out of Sadness 

"The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by John Ortved 

Talking Simpsons Interview with Mimi Pond 

Neil Tesser's interview with Matt Groening in Playboy, 1990 

Matt Groening Interview with The Advocate 

The gay lifestyle magazine featuring Smithers (GENRE, not Out, apologies!), published March 1996. 

Academy of Television Art and Science’s five hour interview with James L. Brooks (not Museum of Television and Radio as cited in show sorry!) 

Marc Maron’s interview with Sam Simon 

1995 interview with David Mirkin 

Recent and rare extensive interview with legendary original simpsons write John Schwartzwelder 

Longtime supervising director David Silverman's Twitter (https://twitter.com/tubatron) is an excellent source of information and he is very forthcoming with answering general production questions.

DSM classifications for Specific Phobia 

DSM 3- TR Major Depressive Disorder 

Audio commentaries, scripts and deleted scenes on the commercial DVD sets of Season 1 and Season 6.