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Priority

65 episodes - English - Latest episode: almost 8 years ago - ★★★★★ - 2 ratings

A weekly conversation about the modern world of work and life, hosted by Caitie Leibman and her brother Max Leibman. Deal with limitation, make better choices, and get cool stuff done. Or at least have fun listening.

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65: We're Off to a Banner Start

July 29, 2016 16:00 - 1 hour - 76.2 MB

If you only listen to one final episode of Priority this week, make it this one! Eighteen months after taking to the digital airwaves, the Priority team finishes the podcast with an appropriate topic: how does one actually finish a big project? Max revisits strategies he has shared previously: committing specific blocks of time to work, focusing on only a few must-do projects, and taking advantage of random moods and inspirations to “finish things on a whim.” Caitie, meanwhile, considers her ...

64: Pages and Pages of Anger

July 15, 2016 16:00 - 44 minutes - 46.2 MB

We now join our episode synopsis, already in progress! Picking up where they left off last week, the Priority team discusses work in process. What do you do with your unfinished projects? The spectrum of management strategies runs the gamut from the Gantt chart to the stack of papers on your desk, and our hosts have explored all points in between. Caitie shares a cautionary tale about a treasure trove of half-formed ideas she once lost, and comes to the vaguely Buddhist conclusion that—imp...

63: Just Like Grandpappy Did

July 01, 2016 16:00 - 37 minutes - 37.8 MB

Can a preliminary sketch still be considered “art?” (Given how little editing Max does some weeks, our hosts hope so!) An exhibition of unfinished works at the Metropolitan Museum of Art inspires this episode’s topic: rough drafts. Caitie reminds us to appreciate our drafts, or even our rough-around-the-edges finished projects; a rough approximation is sometimes the best we can do and helps get us to something better. Max, meanwhile, points out that everything is a draft—even the most polishe...

62: Lean Into the Band-Aid

June 17, 2016 16:00 - 29 minutes - 28 MB

How bad could it be? This week on Priority, our hosts explore the worst things that never happened! Caitie, in town to work an intense short-term contract, joins Max to discuss how depleted she feels. There’s just one hitch—she actually doesn’t feel half bad! Despite being good at managing her energy and boundaries, Caitie reflects on how often she overestimates how taxing a busy schedule or challenging conversation will be. Max wonders if the key is a loss of perspective, and recounts how ...

61: Caitie Watchers™

June 03, 2016 16:00 - 45 minutes - 47.7 MB

Where does the time go? The week, forty-five minutes of Priority’s time went into discussing Laura Vanderkam’s “The Busy Person’s Lies” and 168 Hours. She believes we have more time—and less work—than we think we do. Put your torches and pitchforks down, folks—as we will discover, Vanderkam knows of what she speaks, having studied the research literature and many individuals’ time logs. This inspires a lively discussion of various time-tracking schemes our hosts have attempted. Caitie reports...

60: Stay in School, Kids

May 20, 2016 16:00 - 45 minutes - 41 MB

Toast. Tired. Beat. Exhausted. Under the weather. Over it. This week on Priority, Max asks an important question: how do you do your best work when you feel less than your best? What happens to your productivity when you are not firing on all cylinders? With an eight-week-old baby under his roof, it’s little wonder he’s struggling with these very issues right now. Caitie—no stranger to wearing multiple plates and keeping a lot of hats spinning—stresses the importance of good self-care. Ge...

59: Citing a Manhole Cover

May 06, 2016 16:00 - 43 minutes - 43 MB

How would you rate your memory? If you said better than average, try this: can you recall that story Max told during our last episode—about the mommy blogger who made a reader so mad that they reported the blogger to Child Protective Services? If you find yourself nodding along, check your memory—that story got cut before you heard the episode! You are in good company, though. Max did the same thing when he recounted it without checking his sources (as it turns out, the incident never happen...

58: Dad Eyes

April 22, 2016 16:00 - 43 minutes - 44.1 MB

Max is a new dad! Caitie is a new aunt! Priority has a new episode! One month ago, Max and Kourtney welcomed their son, Owen, into the world. Thanks to the experience of becoming a parent, Max now understands things about life and love that only another parent can appreciate. Kidding: this is not that kind of show. Max is actually pretty down on that kind of parental self-importance, but he does now understand a few things better than he did before. He’s rapidly becoming an expert on slee...

57: The Gravel Road of the Information Superhighway

April 08, 2016 16:00 - 36 minutes - 33.3 MB

Do you feel like you've been literally buried alive in business metaphors? Just missed your black belt in martial arts-inspired jargon? In the second half of their review of The 5 Choices: The Path to Extraordinary Productivity, Max and Caitie explore the book's sage advice for managing schedules, technology, and energy. Caitie critiques the authors' varied imagery—the "gravel" of trivial tasks and notifications, or the Samurai-like "swordlessness" of one who avoids dependence on a particular...

56: A [Math] Number of Goals

March 25, 2016 16:00 - 38 minutes - 34.9 MB

This week, the Priority team presents the first half of its review of The 5 Choices: The Path to Extraordinary Productivity. Caitie takes issue with the books’ hypothetical antagonist, Carl the office creep. Max feels slightly skeptical when authors Kory Kogon, Adam Merrill, and Leena Rinne claim this book isn’t about managing time. Worse, he picks a fight with the entire Internet over the productivity legacy of Dwight D. Eisenhower. Still, our hosts can get behind The 5 Choices' actual focus...

55: You Will Love Business!

March 11, 2016 17:00 - 37 minutes - 36.1 MB

Caitie reaches a milestone, receiving her first set of professionally-printed business cards. This inspires a lively discussion about the parameters and purposes of business cards, and the culture of capital "n" Networking. Our hosts contemplate the place of these scraps of paper in our digital age. Caitie reflects on a past experience in which a card received helped a brief encounter at a conference grow into a meaningful exchange of ideas. Max, meanwhile, recommends only accepting a busines...

54: Administrative Nonsense Day

February 26, 2016 17:00 - 44 minutes - 42.5 MB

Elon Musk. Jack Dorsey. Marissa Mayer. How do these high-flying tech CEOs get so much done? Media profiles tally their super-clever strategies for making it work, but the Priority team asks a more basic question: are they even getting that much done? The research paints a bleak picture. Each hour over 40 provides diminishing returns, each hour over 65 provides no additional return, and at 80 hours, even highly-trained medical residents make crazy errors. Max observes that successful CEOs have...

53: What Would Walt Disney World Do?

February 12, 2016 17:00 - 1 hour - 60.8 MB

Hakuna matata! Priority starts its second year with a trip to Orlando, Florida! In the tradition that stretches back to Episode No. 1, the Priority team takes a quarterly break from work and productivity issues to discuss a cultural artifact. This time, though, they’ve picked a doozy: the Walt Disney World resort, in Orlando, FL. It’s not all dark rides and roller coasters, though—between losing track of which Little Mermaid-themed attraction is which and waxing nostalgic about their childhoo...

52: The Mark Twain That This Generation Deserves

January 29, 2016 17:00 - 55 minutes - 50.5 MB

What would you do if a great opportunity fell into your lap today? If you’re Max, you might grab a towel and some club soda, and hope it doesn’t stain your pants. He points out that we often fail to recognize opportunities when they appear. Meanwhile, Caitie would take that opportunity and run with it. While her co-host worries over the limits of our ability to seize opportunities, she is actively taking advantage of one. She recounts the changes she has made to her schedule and infrastructu...

51: Monday Caitie

January 22, 2016 17:00 - 44 minutes - 40.8 MB

You wouldn’t know it from the release schedule, but Priority went on a six-week recording hiatus. Caitie traveled the Gulf Coast. Max did, well, whatever he does—until last week, when our intrepid hosts met up with other family in Orlando for a belated Christmas. This week, the Priority team resumes work and school (and podcasting), and lead us on a guided tour of their reentry. There will always be friction when we return to our jobs or projects after a long break, but the amount of fricti...

50: Max Reacher

January 15, 2016 17:00 - 46 minutes - 42.1 MB

This week, Priority hits the road! Caitie likes to devote the proper time and space to travel. Just getting from point A to point B is plenty for one day, even without the TSA patting down one’s hair for explosives. Max agrees, and shares his favorite way to take control of travel days: packing lightly. He may not He may not have the freedom of, say, Jack Reacher (who packs only a wallet and toothbrush), but he feels liberated flying with nothing but a single backpack. The Priority team muses...

49: Gregory House's Boss

January 08, 2016 17:00 - 47 minutes - 43.6 MB

How awesome are you? How awesome do you think you are? And how much does the difference matter? This week, Priority turns its attention to confidence. Max feels secure enough to point out that confidence is born of success, which in turn is often born of luck. But he’s not self-assured enough to discount such mere feelings of confidence. The confident, after all, are the ones who will have the courage to say “Yes!” when opportunity rings the doorbell. Meanwhile, Caitie boldly asserts tha...

48: I'm Totally Garfield

January 01, 2016 17:00 - 44 minutes - 41 MB

Priority gets a case of the Mondays! In Max's mind, Mondays couldn't be much worse. Caitie points out that Mondays can help set the pace for the week (for better or for worse, as we sometimes spend rest of the week overcoming Monday). But if a week is a useful unit of time for planning and thinking about our work, Mondays are surely due some consideration. Want better Mondays? The Priority team may not have all the answers, but they start the week bright and early to working on the questions.

47: A Year Is a Thing

December 25, 2015 17:00 - 53 minutes - 48.5 MB

Productivity nerds and laypeople alike hold deep skepticism towards New Year's Resolutions. They feel a little arbitrary, a little corny. What’s so special about January 1st? Maybe December 31st isn’t the moment to reimagine your entire life. You’re still going to be you the next morning (or, perhaps, you’ll turn into you-with-a-hangover). But if there is a little motivational magic to be had, why not go for it? This week, Caitie recounts silly goals of New Years past. Meanwhile, Max suggests...

46: Watching the Words Go By

December 18, 2015 17:00 - 51 minutes - 47.2 MB

If you've ever caught yourself planning your next remark while you should be listening to someone else . . . you might be a human. This week, listen deeply as our hosts explore a skill we often take for granted. Caitie suggests that emotional and physiological barriers can keep us from listening well. Max berates so-called active listening and critiques the state of the art in listening advice. But whatever the quality or quantity of our training in listening skills, the Priority team can’t e...

45: More Traditional Quirks

December 11, 2015 17:00 - 1 hour - 56.3 MB

The podcast is alive with the sound of music this week! Max reveals some catchy singles he's worn out worse than his recurring jokes, and Caitie yells at people who think it's inappropriate for her to listen to Christmas music out of season. But the team covers more than their own tastes and hang-ups this week, too. Familiar favorites or instrumental music can help us concentrate on challenging work. Lively beats and clever hooks pump us up. Our songs become the soundtrack of our lives, trigg...

44: Better Early Than Ever

December 04, 2015 17:00 - 1 hour - 57.7 MB

We’ve all heard the same advice about how to tackle a big project: break it down into smaller, manageable tasks. But hearing the advice isn’t the same as taking it—or pacing yourself as you work through those milestones. This time on Priority, Caitie and Max wonder about the mysterious phenomenon of being early. Sure, maybe it's more mysterious for Caitie, who struggles to trick her brain into working ahead. Max shares experiences ranging from caffeine-infused all-nighters to working three we...

43: The Frenzies

November 27, 2015 17:08 - 1 hour - 56.2 MB

If you've been at a task too long, you might feel like you're going cross-eyed. This week, the Priority team wonders about benefits and strategies for gaining distance from our work. Wait—don't run away! Caitie suggests that a healthy change in perspective or a break might be just what an intense situation needs. Max makes the distinction between pushing forward in a grind versus riding a wave. Caitie agrees: dwelling in a task without moving is a sign it's time to shake things up. How can ...

42: Objective Colon

November 20, 2015 17:00 - 52 minutes - 48.3 MB

From your resume’s “objective statement” to your afternoon snacking plans, having a sense of the purpose of your activities goes a long way. How well does a given option move you towards where you want to go? The Priority team gets purposeful this week, suggesting that asking the big "Why?" question can reveal guideposts to navigate options. Caitie and Max find that a clear purpose can help us better connect with others and communicate the relevance of our work, though Max points out that som...

41: Being Into Things

November 13, 2015 17:00 - 54 minutes - 49.8 MB

No cats were harmed in the making of this episode as the team gets topic-curious about . . . curiosity! After a break from recording, Caitie and Max are back it, trying to make sense of a complicated impulse. Caitie suggests curiosity is a position from which you can make better observations and connections. Max cautions, though, that it shouldn't be so celebrated at the expense of focus. Psychologists have long considered the role "openness to experience" plays in personality, and that's a...

40: Mannheim Steamroller Derby

November 06, 2015 17:05 - 1 hour - 55 MB

Is it too early in the year to talk about Christmas music? Does Caitie care whether it's early? Will Max let her be the grumpy one this week?! All is still merry and bright this time on Priority, as the team takes its quarterly sidestep to consider a work from popular culture. The Mannheim Steamroller album Christmas created a new sound in a style driven by traditional tunes. In their analysis, Caitie insists on recognizing the deep roots and modern spirit of Christmas as a cultural experie...

39: MyForensicsPal

October 30, 2015 16:00 - 48 minutes - 44.4 MB

If life's a game, then maybe it's time to level up the productivity. This week on Priority, the team explores ways to "gamify" your work. Tools, apps, and tricks abound in this week's discussion on gamification--and the key principles that motivate us to play anything that feels like a game. Caitie reflects on using rewards as motivation, and the precarious balance between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. Max considers how the social elements of gamification create competition, solidari...

38: Pumpkin Spice Metrics

October 23, 2015 17:39 - 1 hour - 61.7 MB

No matter what type of work you do, you may be called upon to capture and demonstrate productivity. How's your output? How's the quality of your work? What targets have you met? But perhaps more importantly, who is painting those targets? And how? Caitie may not understand how targets work, but despite that, the Priority team tackles personal metrics. Max suggests that identifying the right measurement can be hard, and the audience matters (after all, what gets measured gets done). Caitie a...

37: Go Back to Your Junk Office

October 16, 2015 16:00 - 49 minutes - 45.2 MB

We all know what a trash can is for. It's for this podcast. *Self-zing!* But truly, the trash can is a model organizational tool because its function is clear. Piles and jumbles on the other hand. These things require decisions. No matter your relationship to your stuff, this week on Priority, the team tries to make sense of it all. Caitie gets stuck in trash can land, wondering how clear her organization would be if every space was so clearly defined. Max suggests there should be a place for...

36: The Two-Faced God of Your Morning Coffee

October 09, 2015 18:57 - 56 minutes - 52 MB

As autumn deepens and The Holidays draw near, Caitie contemplates the place of seasons in our lives, plans, and—yes—decorating sprees. Being Midwesterners, the Priority team is all too familiar with the turning of the seasons. But seasons aren’t just, in the words of Marcus Buckingham, “The PowerPoint version of the weather.” It seems for everything, as the Byrds put it, there is a season—baseball season, the school year, a television season, tax season. But seasons do more than provide ext...

35: Six-Foot To-Do List

October 02, 2015 16:00 - 49 minutes - 45.2 MB

Talk about task lists? Easy: check! Creating and accomplishing to do list items is simple enough when they're clear, but what about those fuzzy ones that languish in task list purgatory? The Priority team is making some lists and checking them twice this week, and trying to figure out what works. Caitie is haunted by items floating to the bottom of her list, but also shares how she leans on her calendar, and how it reflects relationship between her tasks and her time. Max talks about a few ...

34: Robots for All!

September 25, 2015 17:15 - 58 minutes - 53.6 MB

After last week's suggestion that the robots are indeed coming, the Priority team considers them more broadly: what does increasing automation mean for our work? Caitie embraces automation: Google Calendar, systematic emails, and prompts that keep her world in order. But Max suggests that his long-hand project management isn't tedious, per se, by comparison. Maybe it's more thoughtful, forcing him to slow down when he considers his work. So the robots have their perks and limitations, but ...

33: Because Future

September 18, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 65.2 MB

Who do you work for? It seems like a simple question, but it sparks an Amazon-sized debate this week on Priority. Caitie and Max discuss recent news detailing the intense, workaholic culture at the tech giant, but wonder about implications for the rest of us. Who sets the expectations—and tone—in your workplace? Caitie questions the payoff of a breakneck working life. Sure, she could spend a 40-hour week responding to work that her student took ten minutes to write, but to what end? The Pri...

32: Gavel, Gavel, Gavel

September 11, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 58.2 MB

If our individual time and attention are precious resources, then how much more valuable—and fragile—are our shared time and attention? The answer is "very," and nothing despoils those resources like a bad meeting. Caitie tells a story of teleconferences past (equal part cautionary tale and productivity nightmare), and makes some real-life meeting plans. Meanwhile, Max supplies his usual mix of project management thinking, silly hacks, and David Allen quotes. In his talk, “Bad Meetings (a...

31: Pretend to Capture It All

September 04, 2015 16:00 - 58 minutes - 54 MB

To write, or to type? To take minutes, or make lists? The Priority team talks note-taking this week! Caitie shares some observations and research about notes in the classroom: the good (writing by hand), the bad (typing a lecture verbatim), and the skillful (learning how to grab the most important notes). Max agrees that knowing what to capture can be refined over time, and he shares some of his own practices. Hint: they may or may not involve a utensil with four ink colors and a pencil. Some...

30: Ask Your Doctor About Ambivert

August 28, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 71.8 MB

An angry introvert and an ambivert walk into a podcast . . . and start shouting about Quiet, by Susan Cain (again). Max is still embracing his label and questioning Caitie’s, but the Priority team has a few more things to say about Cain's a book about the often under-appreciated and misunderstood qualities of introversion. Caitie reflects on various definitions of "sensitivity" and their relationship to introversion. Max wonders if more folks would see the world more clearly—and adjust their...

29: Listener of the Year, 2006

August 21, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 75.2 MB

Introversion and extroversion are two points on a spectrum... and there is a lot to be learned by identifying your spot on it, too! Listen as the Priority team offers part one in its series on Susan Cain's Quiet, a work exploring the science and implications of a society that doesn't always recognize the power of introverts. In this episode, Caitie and Max walk listeners through a self-assessment using the informal quiz Cain provides, offering reflections on their own temperaments and prefer...

28: There Might Be a Tsunami

August 14, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 65 MB

nowing how we work can be as important as any other factor on the job, but imagining how much time our work might take can be, well, hard. Because psychology. The team explores the topic of estimation this week, leading Max and Caitie to tackle everything from Parkinson's Law and deadlines to mythical "summer projects" and that mad dash to clean the house before your mother drops in. Tasks may expand to fill the time we give them, but surely we can use this knowledge to our advantage. Or ma...

27: Tequila Mockingbird

August 07, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 70.5 MB

Ever wondered what makes a story a classic? Or how many jiggers of literary tropes it takes to mix a mockingbird? Well, the Priority team may not have all of the answers, but that's never stopped them. In their third foray into art and culture, Caitie and Max visit and revisit Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird. Caitie rediscovers some important moments, the things that make Mockingbird a real gem across her years of "required reading." Max finds the novel more entertaining than he'd expected...

26: Twelve Angry Coworkers

July 31, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 62 MB

Remember when Caitie and Max first debated workspaces, and the power our environment has influence our productivity, work culture, and happiness? Yeah, we don’t, either, because—as it happens—that episode was recorded but never released. But today, they revisit the topic with renewed vigor. Caitie sympathizes with worker bees who just want to put a little personality into their space. Max loves a tidy desk, but more than anything he’s just really, really angry about open plan offices. Unfortu...

25: You're a Blueberry!

July 24, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 69.6 MB

A colleague at work, standing behind you, says “Blueberry.” What do you do? The answer to that odd question—and Max has a doozy of a story about one former co-worker’s response—depends on what you bring to the situation. Faced with ambiguous or uncertain circumstances, our expectations shape our experience of life and work. Example abound: a manager who expects a job candidate to flirt during the interview will elicit flirtatious behavior; expectations of children’s performance changes how we...

24: As 'Wearing a Suit' As Possible

July 17, 2015 16:00 - 1 hour - 63.3 MB

The –isms fly fast and furious this week: racism, sexism, classism, and . . . professionalism? One of these things is not like the others—except that it often is. Much of what we talk about when we talk about professionalism is superficial and confining: modes of dress and speech that limit the scope of who should be regarded as an insider, and who we should trust with our business. But if professionalism is not a tie tack, what is it? Is there any room for standards of punctuality, respect, ...

23: Some of My Best Friends Are Ponytails

July 10, 2015 15:00 - 1 hour - 58.5 MB

It’s summer in Priority Country, and life hacks are in the air! Caitie and Max share the tips and tricks that can actually tip us over into success (or at least trick us into thinking so), and review a few self-help clichés that are actually, well, helpful. This week, they run down several pieces of advice that truly did prove their worth in the crucible of daily work and life. From saving fifteen minutes at the grocery store to becoming a wealthy, successful writer for The New Yorker (or . ....

22: Weird Summer Housewife Magazine Person

July 03, 2015 18:15 - 1 hour - 55.3 MB

Five months into the podcast, the Priority team is starting over—or, at least, talking about starting over. Our hosts don't decide on a topic until after they start recording, and a wide-ranging discussion of fresh starts (and grocery store life hacks?) ensues. As Max points out, it's often the not-so-fresh-start, picking up the project anew each day, that gets us where we're going. Caitie agrees, and observes that so much of the magic of the fresh start is, in fact, sleight of hand. We creat...

21: Innovateur

June 26, 2015 16:00 - 53.4 MB

Thought Leader. Coopetition. Game-Changer. Best of Breed. What do they have in common? If you guessed, “Caitie loathes them,” then you would be right. The Priority team debates business buzzwords, from the dangerous and misleading to the merely vapid. “But what’s the big deal?” asks our enterprise-grade audience. Maybe we have ideated a few too many buzzwords, but so what? Isn’t leveling-up our jargon the way we demonstrate expertise and belonging? These paradigm shifts don’t grow on trees, a...

20: That's Fine for Putin

June 19, 2015 14:00 - 1 hour - 59.4 MB

Caitie adds a new term to our conversation on work/life balance: cohesion. So-called experts on “business success” laud focus as the key to achievement, but they leave a lot of the details up to us. Should every role, project, contact, and hobby support some central mission? Or should your hobbies give you a much-needed break and keep you from burning out on that mission? A cohesive plan may get you where you’re going—as Max points out, you’re unlikely to grow up to be an NFL quarterback if y...

19: There Is No School Day

June 12, 2015 14:00 - 59 minutes - 54.5 MB

How many hats do you wear? How many plates are you spinning? How many metaphors can Max force into this episode synopsis? Continuing the productivity arc of the past two weeks, the Priority team tackles the hot-button issue of Work/Life Balance. Caitie doesn’t love the term, or the way it pre-frames the conversation in listeners’ minds. But whatever we decide to call it—Max likes “sustainability,” while Caitie speaks of “self-care,” and you may prefer to call it “Al”*—the conversation is crit...

18: Living with Boxes

June 05, 2015 14:00 - 1 hour - 55.2 MB

As Caitie's move progresses to the unpacking phase, Max asks a timely question: "At any given moment, how do you know what to work on?" The Priority team proceeds to drop some serious to-do list science. Max can't remember what David Allen's "Four Criteria Model for Choosing Actions in the Moment" is called, but he recites it perfectly. Given Caitie's current project, the discussion turns to prioritizing tasks in less-than-optimal circumstances—with more to do than you can do, and when facing...

17: Jedi Body

May 29, 2015 14:00 - 1 hour - 76.2 MB

While packing to move, Caitie unearths a stack of old day planners, inspiring the Priority team to contemplate personal organizing systems. What makes a planner effective? The choice between boring, analog paper or digital clouds of Google magic is a personal preference—do you want everything in one place, or everything in every place? And who do you trust with your data? Of course, it also matters what you write in your planner. Max asserts that many of these issues become non-issues if you ...

16: Time, Cost, Quality, or Cupholder?

May 22, 2015 13:00 - 49 minutes - 45.6 MB

How do you know when your project is done? David Allen suggests that “the way you get things done is you define what done means, and you define what doing looks like.” The team discusses the project management triangle, in which the constraints of time, budget, and scope are balanced against each other. Caitie agrees that we need to know what done means and what the constraints are, as every project could be polished forever without ever quite reaching “perfect.”

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