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PING

61 episodes - English - Latest episode: 23 days ago - ★★★★★ - 2 ratings

PING is a podcast for people who want to look behind the scenes into the workings of the Internet. Each fortnight we will chat with people who have built and are improving the health of the Internet.
The views expressed by the featured speakers are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of APNIC.

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Digital sovereignty and standards

April 03, 2024 20:00 - 1 hour - 89.8 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the European Union's consideration of taking a role in the IETF, as itself. Network engineers, policy makers and scientists from all around the world have participated in IETF but this is the first time an entity like the EU has considered participation as itself in the process of standards development. What's lead to this outcome? What is driving the concern that the EU as a law setting and treaty body, an inter-govern...

DNS OARC's many faces

March 20, 2024 20:00 - 40 minutes - 93.8 MB

This time on PING we have Phil Regnauld from DNS Operations Analysis & Resource Center (DNS-OARC) talking about the three distinct faces OARC presents to the community. Phil came to the OARC presidents role, replacing Keith Mitchell who was the founding president since 2008 through to this year. Phil previously has worked with the Network Startup Resource Centre (NSRC) and with AFNOG, and the Francophone Internet community at large. DNS OARC has at least 3 distinct faces. It is a community...

DELEG - a proposed new way to manage DNS Delegation in-band

March 06, 2024 21:00 - 1 hour - 84.7 MB

In this episode of PING, APNICs Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses a new proposed DNS resource record called DELEG. The record is being designed to aid in managing where a DNS zone is delegated. Delegation is the primary mechanism used in the DNS to separate responsibility between child and parent for a given domain name. The DELEG RR is designed to address several problems, including a goal of moving to new transports for the name resolution service the DNS provides to all other Interne...

Taking the PULSE of the Internet

February 21, 2024 21:00 - 35 minutes - 49.2 MB

This time on PING we have Amreesh Phokeer from the Internet Society (ISOC) talking about a system they operate called Pulse, available at https://pulse.internetsociety.org/. Pulse’s purpose is to assess the “resiliency” of the Internet in a given locality. Similar systems we have discussed before on Ping include APNIC’s DASH service, aimed at resource holding APNIC members, and the MANRS project. Both of these take underlying statistics like resource distribution data, or measurements of RPK...

DNS is the new BGP

February 07, 2024 21:00 - 54 minutes - 74.1 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the role of DNS in directing where your applications connect to, and where content comes from. Although this more “steering” traffic than it “routing” in the strict sense of IP packet forwarding, (that’s still the function of the border gateway protocol or BGP) It does in fact represent a kind of routing decision, to select a content source or server logistically “best” or “closest” to you. So in the spirit of “Orange is ...

Global Cyber Alliance Measurements

January 24, 2024 21:00 - 38 minutes - 52.6 MB

In this episode of PING, Leslie Daigle from the Global Cyber Alliance (GCA) discusses their honeynet project, measuring bad traffic internet-wide. This was originally focussed on IoT devices with the AIDE project but is clearly more generally informative. Leslie also discusses the quad-nine DNS service, GCA’s domain trust work and the MANRS project. Launched in 2014 with support from ISOC, MANRS now has a continuing relationship with GCA and may represent a model for the routing community reg...

IPv6 Fragmentation and the DNS

January 10, 2024 21:00 - 55 minutes - 76.5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the change in IP packet fragmentation behaviour adopted by IPv6, and the implications of a change in IETF “Normative Language” regarding use of IPv6 in the DNS. IPv4 arguably succeeds over so many variant underlying links and networks because it’s highly adaptable to fragmentation in the path. IPv6 has a proscriptive requirement that only the end hosts fragment, which limits how intermediate systems can handle IPv6 data ...

The ICANN DNS stats collector system

December 06, 2023 21:00 - 30 minutes - 41.4 MB

In this episode of PING, Sara Dickinson from Sinodun Internet Technologies and Terry Manderson, VP, Information Security and Network Engineering at ICANN discuss the ICANN DNS stats collector system which ICANN commissioned, and Sinodun wrote for them. This system consists of two parts, a DNS stats compactor framework which captures data in the C-DNS format, a specified set of data in CBOR format, and the DNS stats visualiser which is uses Grafana. The C-DNS format is not a complete packet c...

Low Earth Orbit and the TCP congestion control problem

November 22, 2023 21:00 - 1 hour - 105 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the rise of Low Earth Orbiting (LEO) Satellite based Internet, and the consequences for end-to-end congestion control in TCP and related protocols. Modern TCP has mostly been tuned for constant delay, low loss paths and performs very well at balancing bandwidth amongst the cooperating users of such a link, achieving maximum use of the resource. But a consequence of the new LEO internet is a high degree of variability in d...

Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

November 08, 2023 21:00 - 32 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, Verisign fellow Duane Wessels discusses a late state (version 08) Internet draft he’s working on with two colleagues from Verisign. The draft is on Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures and is co-authored by Duane, William Carroll, and Matt Thomas This episode discusses the behaviour of the DNS system overall in the face of failures to answer. There are already mechanisms to deny the existence of a queried name or a specific resource type. There are also mechan...

What really happened — 30 years of APNIC

October 25, 2023 20:00 - 1 hour - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, instead of a conversation with APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston we’ve got a panel session from APNIC56 he facilitated, where Geoff and six guests got to discuss the 30 year history of APNIC. With Geoff on the panel were: Professor Jun Murai known as the ‘father of the Internet’ in Japan. In 1984, he developed the Japan University UNIX Network (JUNET), the first-ever inter-university network in that nation. In 1988, he founded the Widely Integrated Distributed En...

Where in the world is Carmen Santiego's Data Centre?

October 11, 2023 20:30 - 34 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, Stephen Song discusses his work mapping the Internet. This is a long-term project, which he carries out alongside and supported by Mozilla Corporation, and the Association for Progressive Communications (APC). Stephen has long championed the case for Open Data in telecommunications decision-making and maintains a list of resources for capacity building and development of the Internet with a particular focus on Africa. The combination of some opaque business practice...

How APNIC Labs measures the world using adverts

September 27, 2023 20:24 - 1 hour - 5 MB

25 Million end-user measurements per day, worldwide, from google advertising.

DASH sees a large route leak in Singapore

September 13, 2023 20:00 - 29 minutes - 5 MB

In june of this year, the Dashboard for AS Health or DASH, a service operated by APNIC saw a leak of approximately 260,000 BGP routes from a vantage point in Singapore, and sent alerts to around 90 subscribers to our routing mis-alignment notification service which is part of DASH. BGP is the state of announcements made and heard worldwide, calculated by every BGP speaker for themselves and although its globally connected and represents “the same” network, not everyone sees all things, as a ...

The Chips are down: Moore's Law coming to an end.

August 30, 2023 20:00 - 57 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the coming future of VLSI with Moores law coming to an end. This was motivated by a key presentation made at the most recent ANRW session at IETF117, San Francisco. For over 5 decades we have been able to rely on an annual, latterly bi-annual doubling of speed called Moore's Law, and halving of size of the technology inside a microchip: Very Large Scale Integration (VLSI), the basic building block of the modern age being...

Here comes the sun(spots) — what are the real risks in solar storms?

August 16, 2023 20:00 - 45 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING Jaap Akkerhuis (NLNet Labs), Ulrich Spiedel (University of Auckland) and Russ White (Juniper) discuss the issues behind Sunspots, ionisation in the athmosphere and it's effects on satellite communications and terrestrial infrastructure based on wires in the air: Power grids and data services. In two blogs Good day sunshine and Solar Storms and the Internet we've highlighted the potential risks from increases in solar activity such as solar flares and the associated Co...

Content vs Carriage

August 02, 2023 20:00 - 50 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the eternal tension between content and carriage. At the RIPE 86 meeting held in Rotterdam in May of this year, Rudolf van der Berg presented a talk titled ‘The EU Gigabit Connectivity Package and How It Will Hurt the Internet’ (video, slides). Geoff has previously written about the tensions between content and carriage, transit and Content Distribution Networks (CDNs), and the economics of networks but this episode of ...

Adding ZONEMD protections to the root zone

July 19, 2023 06:00 - 36 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, Verisign fellow Duane Wessels presents the ZONEMD resource record, defined in RFC8976. The “MD” in ZONEMD stands for “message digest” and this resource record (RR) is a checksum over the state of a zone, including all its records and the zone serial record (“start of authority” or SOA) which includes a serial number. This means that by fetching an entire zone, either in the DNS or “out of band” from an FTP or Web server or however you receive it, if it has the ZONEM...

About Time: The Swedish national secure time distribution initiative

July 05, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses how Sweden built a national time distribution system and the nature of time in the modern Internet. At the RIPE86 Meeting held in Rotterdam in May of this year, Karin Ahl, the CEO of Netnod presented a talk titled “How Sweden Built a World-Leading Time Network” A central problem in time distribution on the Internet is firstly the lack of security inside the Network Time Protocol (NTP), and secondly the sources and relia...

Measuring Ourselves: How the IETF performs at producing documents

June 21, 2023 06:00 - 55 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, Christian Huitema discusses how looking into the IETF data tracker allowed him to assess "how well we are doing" at document production. As the IETF has grown, and as the process of developing standards has got more complex its understandable it takes a bit longer to produce a viable RFC but some questions have been made about exactly where in process the delays come from. Are we really doing better or worse than we used to? and, why might that be? Christian took a...

Failed Expectations: 40 years of network history

June 07, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC’s Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the major themes from his recent blog on “Failed Expectations” In a trip down memory lane, the podcast ranges over the 40 year plus history of how we came to have the current Internet as we know it, and some of the “road not taken” alternates which were under consideration at the time. In this context. “Failed” doesn’t have to mean “failed to work” -it can mean the technology simply wasn’t chosen, or it can be the “failu...

A Look Back at Notable Root Zone Changes

May 24, 2023 06:00 - 43 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, Verisign Fellow Duane Wessels discusses notable changes in the DNS root zone over the last 13 years. Duane joined Verisign in the early stages of DNSSEC deployment and has conducted measurements of DNS for many years, in his measurement factory days, and in DNS OARC as well as inside Verisign. The significant changes to the DNS root zone, and it's implications for the root zone operators are discussed: Deploying DNSSEC, the first DNSSEC KSK key changes, the increa...

How much buffer is enough?

May 10, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC's Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the question of buffers, flow control and 'efficient' use of a network link. How do we maximise the use of a given network path, without knowing everything about its size along the way? It turns out, the story isn't as simple as "more is better" because sometimes, adding more memory to the system adds delay. Modern TCP's flow control algorithms are being modified to react to delay as well as loss, and become more effici...

Network Dependency measurement at IIJ

April 26, 2023 06:00 - 50 minutes - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, Dr Romain Fontugne, the deputy director of research at IIJ Labs in Tokyo discusses the IIJ "Internet Health Report" and AS Hegemony (or network centrality) in particular. This is a data model they have been working on for some time (6 years now) which exposes dependencies between ASs in BGP, both directly (as in customer-cone) and indirectly through transitive dependencies. It's a fascinating insight into how BGP dependencies can be seen through the state of the rout...

But wait - there's more: The rise (and possible fall) of LEO

April 12, 2023 06:00 - 1 second - 5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC's Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellite communications and the amazing effects they are having on internet reach worldwide. Read more about the issues in LEO and satellite communications on the APNIC Blog. Here's some recent articles of note: Getting hands-on experience with Starlink (Ulrich Speidel) Everything, everywhere, all the time (for the internet at least) (George Michaelson) The APRICOT Panel discussing satellite br...

Reverse Traceroute: It's just traceroute, but the other direction

March 29, 2023 06:00 - 39 minutes - 45 MB

In this episode of PING, Dr Rolf Winter, the Professor of Data Communications at Augsburg University of Applied Sciences discusses his work on ‘reverse traceroute’, which is an approach to using the well-known traceroute mechanism but driven from the other end. The inherent problem with traceroute and its related diagnostics is that it only informs you about the path outwards from your address to the other end. Reverse traceroute is an attempt to ‘mechanize’ the reverse path information, us...

DNSSEC: The case for and against

March 15, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 73.8 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC's Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses DNSSEC and presents a case "for" and "against" deployment, in the context of complexity, fragility, and impact on the DNS process at large. DNSSEC is net beneficial but its by no means automatic to deploy it protecting a zone. And for Geoff's continuing measurement of DNSSEC see https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec for his daily updated measurements of DNSSEC validation. The views expressed by the featured speakers are t...

Measuring User Experience on the Web at APNIC

March 01, 2023 07:00 - 34 minutes - 39.8 MB

In this episode of PING, Andre Geldeblom from APNIC product development discusses how APNIC is measuring user experience, satisfaction and engagement with the "Orbit" system we deployed to provide web services integrated with email. Andre discusses the different motivations and mechanisms we're using at APNIC to understand "UX" and how this integrates in our planning to deliver "value for money" to the APNIC community. The views expressed by the featured speakers are their own and do not ne...

What's happening with growth in BGP?

February 15, 2023 07:00 - 45 minutes - 52.5 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC's Chief Scientist Geoff Huston discusses the current situation in BGP across IPv4 and IPv6. Historically. we've met the "running out of memory" problem with incremental upgrades but things have now come to a place where "simply adding more memory" may not be the answer, and the dynamics of BGP growth appear to have changed. Geoff explores the changing surface of the BGP default-free zone, and what it means for routing technology and the ISP Read more about th...

Is my Internet Down?

February 01, 2023 07:00 - 43 minutes - 49.5 MB

In this episode of PING, Ege Cem Kirci from ETH Zurich discusses his IMC paper on users perceptions of internet outages, measured using Google Trends. This was presented at the IMC conference held in NIce, France in October 2022. Ege and his co-authors have been exploring the relationship of Internet outages, (for example caused by weather events) and the information in google trends, with a mechanism to combine snapshots of data by time period which auto-scale, to a single unified time seri...

Measuring Centrality in the DNS

January 18, 2023 07:00 - 1 hour - 88.1 MB

In this episode of PING, APNIC's Chief Scientist Geoff Huston explores how APNIC Labs has been able to look inside behaviour in the DNS, to see signs of the "centrality" problem: How much concentration of delivery of service is there, across different market segments of users, and between the supply side (name serving as an authority) and and request side (recursive resolvers) Read more about the APNIC Labs measurement of DNS: Looking at Centrality in the DNS The views expressed by the fea...

Journeying into XDP: Cardinality and Keys

December 21, 2022 07:00 - 44 minutes - 41.1 MB

In this episode of PING, Luuk Hendricks and Willem Toorop from NLNet talk about their work to embed telemetry in the linux kernel using eXpress Data Path (XDP) Read more about XDP in a series of articles published in the APNIC blog: Journeying into XDP: Part 0 Journeying into XDP: Augmenting the DNS Journeying into XDP: Fully-fledged DNS service augmentation Journeying into XDP: Augmenting the DNS and their blog covering this episode of Ping: Journeying into XDP: XDPerimenting with DNS te...

A brief dip into DNS OARC 39

December 07, 2022 07:00 - 59 minutes - 68.2 MB

In this episode of PING, Geoff Huston talks through some of the presentations he saw (and gave) at the recent DNS OARC meeting held in Belgrade. Read more about DNS OARC in the APNIC Blog.

COLIBRI: Brokering bandwidth across the path in SCION

November 23, 2022 19:00 - 38 minutes - 44.2 MB

In this episode of PING, Juan Garcia Pardo from ETH Zurich discusses the Colibri project, a "concrete design and implementation of a collaborative lightweight inter-domain bandwidth reservation infrastructure". Juan explores the motivations for setting up a bandwidth reservation framework, and how it might be used in practice. Read more about Colibri and SCION on the APNIC Blog

Whither RPKI?

November 09, 2022 19:00 - 1 hour - 83.4 MB

APNIC's Chief Scientist, Geoff Huston, joins PING for his monthly chat, to share his thoughts on the associated trust with routing security and whether it can hold up as a sustainable model. We'll talk about the history of trust in communication and associated challenges within routing security and the rise and future of Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) and BGP security. Read more about PKI and routing security on the APNIC Blog. The views expressed by the featured speakers are th...

Your network is more ready than you think for the quantum Internet

October 26, 2022 18:00 - 35 minutes - 49.1 MB

At the recent APNIC 54 meeting, we sat down with local keynote speaker Alexander Ling, Director of Singapore's Quantum Engineering Programme, in his offices at the National University of Singapore’s Centre for Quantum Technologies. In this episode, Alex will give us a brief 101 on quantum networking — given it may be a relatively new concept for many of you, even though it's been in development for quite some time — and discuss its current and pending use cases in the next 3 to 5 years, incl...

Be careful what you wish for

October 12, 2022 18:00 - 55 minutes - 76.1 MB

APNIC's Chief Scientist, Geoff Huston, joins PING for his monthly chat, to warn the service provider industry about pressuring regulators to make content providers pay to use their networks; a situation currently playing out in Korea as we chatted about in Episode 13. As he outlines in his recent post, Geoff forecasts the consequences of turning our backs on net neutrality which could jeopardize service providers' current hold on the provision market and Internet users’ access to sites like ...

Taking a systems approach to developing new protocols

September 28, 2022 18:00 - 46 minutes - 63.2 MB

In this episode, we’re returning to a topic that we last discussed in Episode 20, with Robin Marx, and unpacking the intricacies and perceived complexities of the QUIC and other similar new protocols. To help, we’ve invited Larry Peterson and Bruce Davie, who among their extensive list of experience spanning the past thirty years, are co-authors of the renowned ‘Computer Networks: A Systems Approach’ textbook, which is now in its fifth edition and open source. Check out the Systems Approa...

Can technology curb centralization in the Internet?

September 14, 2022 06:00 - 48 minutes - 67.1 MB

APNIC's Chief Scientist, Geoff Huston, joins PING for his month chat, to share his thoughts on discussions at the recent meeting of the Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Research Group (DINRG) at IETF 114. The DINRG investigates open research issues in decentralizing infrastructure services such as trust management, identity management, name resolution, resource/asset ownership management, and resource discovery with a focus on infrastructure services that can benefit from decentralizati...

Rethinking how we measure video performance

August 31, 2022 18:00 - 38 minutes - 53.4 MB

In this episode, we chat with Anant Shah, Principal Architect at Edgecast, about the challenges with measuring video streaming quality of experience. We'll discuss the fundamentals of video streaming, including the protocols, how it is delivered and different vantage points from which it can be measured. Understanding the challenges associated with delivering and measuring content can provide insight into how we need to improve observability in the Internet as a whole as well as how we can d...

DNS spoofing is a non-issue if we all do DNSSEC

August 17, 2022 18:00 - 39 minutes - 54.2 MB

APNIC's Chief Scientist, Geoff Huston joins us again on the show, this time to discuss three related presentations by Google, ISC and Mozilla that caught his attention during the recent IETF 114 and DNS-OARC 38 meetings on securing the DNS against spoofing. DNS spoofing involves third parties intercepting and responding to queries for benign or malicious purposes; recent studies show that DNS spoofing has more doubled since 2016. Google is protecting its DNS service against spoofing using m...

QUIC and not so complex

August 03, 2022 17:05 - 42 minutes - 58.7 MB

We’re continuing the theme of our last episode and learning more about the intricacies and perceived complexities of the QUIC protocol from one of its contributors and proponents Robin Marx, a web protocol postdoc researcher at KULeuven in Belgium and soon-to-be technical solutions architect at Akamai. Having researched HTTP2 performance as part of his PhD, Robin became involved in the development of HTTP3 and QUIC in the IETF while they were being designed. He also created the popular QUIC ...

Making the Internet QUICer

July 20, 2022 06:00 - 47 minutes - 65.8 MB

In this episode, APNIC’s Chief Scientist, Geoff Huston joins us to discuss a new measurement project that he and his APNIC Labs colleague Joao Damas have established to measure the use and performance of the QUIC protocol (RFC 9000). Although QUIC has only recently been standardized by the IETF (May 2021), it has been around since 2012 with an initial public release included in Chromium version 29, in August 2013. After nine years, how widely is it being used and is it living up to its billi...

Taking a clean slate to designing the Internet of the future

July 06, 2022 06:00 - 27 minutes - 38.1 MB

Today’s Internet is a Frankenstein’s monster of parts that have been bolted together. If it was a house, it would be a knock-down job — far easier to start from scratch. This is easier said than done or so many thought as we’ll come to learn in this episode featuring Nicola Rustignoli a founding engineer at the SCION Association, which is taking a clean-slate approach to overcoming the architectural limitations of today’s Internet, to provide route control, failure isolation, and explicit tr...

How will the saga of IPv6 end?

June 22, 2022 18:00 - 1 second - 85.8 MB

In this episode, APNIC’s Chief Scientist, Geoff Huston, joins us to discuss IPv6 — a topic he has investigated exhaustively over the last 30 years. Specifically, we’re talking about the seemingly never-ending transition to IPv6, the hallmarks it shares with previous IP transitions, how Network Address Translation (NAT) has hindered its deployment for the good and bad of the Internet, and whether 100% IPv6 is even the end goal given how far technology has come since IP was first implemented. ...

Leave your preconceptions at the door: Challenges and opportunities for the Internet routing system

June 08, 2022 18:00 - 39 seconds - 54.3 MB

In this episode, we talk with Adrian Farrel about a study he and Daniel King conducted on the challenges semantic routing has had on the Internet's routing system. Now, this is a topic that a lot of people have a poor opinion of, particularly its link to New IP. But what this study hopes to achieve is to look past the preconceptions and discover the broad underlying issues that semantic routing proposals are seeking to address and how to do it in a generic and scalable way that doesn’t break...

Why a resolverless DNS makes sense

May 25, 2022 18:00 - 50 minutes - 69.5 MB

Geoff Huston joins us again for his monthly chat, this time to consider the contradictory theory of a resolverless DNS. Contradictory because the DNS is by its nature reliant on resolvers. We'll discuss the historical process of how DNS names are resolved and how content providers, through their open DNS services, have sought to optimise this process. This optimisation has led some, including Geoff, to consider 'server push' combined with DNSSEC, as a viable means to speed up the DNS, reduce...

Do government networks have a role to play in deploying RPKI?

May 11, 2022 18:00 - 23 minutes - 31.9 MB

In our fourteenth episode, we're taking a closer look at Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) in Australia and New Zealand with Terry Sweetser. Terry recently worked on an Internet Society project to measure RPKI adoption in Australia and New Zealand among its government services and critical infrastructure. We've invited him on to discuss the results and research methodology, including the challenges of working with public sources of data. Watch Terry's presentation on this project at...

Korea v. Content Provider: When the customer isn’t always right

April 27, 2022 06:00 - 52 minutes - 72.3 MB

In our thirteenth episode, Geoff Huston joins us again for his monthly chat, this time on the historical feudings between carriers and content providers. The latest instalment in this feud is currently playing out in Korea, where South Korean Internet Service Provider, SK Broadband, is suing Netflix to pay for the costs of increased network traffic and maintenance work because of a surge in viewers since 2018. For Geoff, this is merely the latest in a long list of disputes dating back to th...

What will resource security look like in the next 30 years?

April 13, 2022 18:00 - 41 minutes - 56.7 MB

In our twelfth episode, we're talking all things Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) with Job Snijders, Principal Engineer at Fastly. Job shares his thoughts on the benefits of managing an RPKI publication point, including the experience and insights it can give you. We also touch on a recent IETF proposal he has assisted with that seeks to provide clearer, authenticated proof of the intent by address delegates and the future of routing securing including IRR and BGPsec. Check out RPK...

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