I'm joined by the Bishop of Derby and the Vice-Principal of the Institute for Orthodox Christian Studies. We chat about how this pandemic is affecting the church, from hardy communities to Holy Communion. Plus, I go for a walk with my flatmate Ming Cooper on the fiftieth day of UK lockdown. Want to support this podcast? There are two fun ways to do that. 1) Buy me a coffee: https://bit.ly/pilgrimpitstop. 2) Buy yourself a t-shirt: https://rdbl.co/3KKd7R7.