This was an incredibly special episode of the podcast, as I was joined by the great Steven Hayes and the show's very first co-host, Tom Newton.

Steven Hayes is a Nevada Foundation Professor of Psychology in the Behavior Analysis program at the University of Nevada. He's authored 47 books and nearly 670 scientific articles, with a career focused on an analysis of the nature of human language and cognition and the application of this to the understanding and alleviation of human suffering.

He is the developer of Relational Frame Theory, an account of human higher cognition, and has guided its extension to Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), a popular evidence-based form of psychotherapy that uses mindfulness, acceptance, and values-based methods.

We discussed philosophy of science, Steven's involvement in the creation of ACT, and how people can work to integrate those concepts into their lives.

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