In this weeks @c3churchglobal podcast Ps Phil has the privilege, joy and delight of catching up with good friend Ps Paul De Jong. Ps Paul and his wife Maree are the pastors of Life Church, a significant, and nation shaping church with locations across New Zealand and Australia.

This is a wonderful conversation between two great pastors as they discuss walking in Gods call and building the church. Hear the miraculous journey Ps Paul and his family have been on over the last few years as he has battled to overcome a terminal caner diagnosis. What does it mean to have faith during the hardest of circumstances? How do we balance a faith for the miraculous in the midst of very real situations?

If you’re a pastor or leader, do yourself a favour and listen to this conversation between two of the best. Let it be an encouragement and strength to your spirit.

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