The PES podcast has the latest exciting news on the work of the Public Employment Services (PES) in the EU. The monthly podcasts are produced by the European PES Network. PES experts and researchers discuss a current labour market topic for everyone with an interest in the European labour market.

The PES Network has had a very successful bench-learning programme for many years now. This episode has general lessons gained for all PES, from two experts who have travelled all over Europe listening to different PES, writing up reports on how they could benefit from the experience of other PES. The lessons learnt come not simply from discussing strategies with the Head Offices, but also from the employment counsellors working ‘at the coalface’ in the regional offices. Erik Oftedal is a sociologist giving strategic advice to the Head of the Norwegian PES. As part of his learning from the PES network, he mentions how talking to younger staff, the future PES managers, is useful in offering advice on change to the top management. Renata Haublein is now part of the senior management in Europe’s largest PES, the BA in Germany. Previously, Renata was based at the European Commission in Brussels for 18 months as Project Leader for PES Benchlearning making 18 trips to different PES all over Europe. Renata talks about how every PES, however large or small or different from the rest, has something to offer the PES network as a whole.





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