Dr. James Emory White is the founding and senior pastor of Mecklenburg Community Church in Charlotte, North Carolina; President of Serious Times, a ministry that explores the intersection of faith and culture and he hosts the website and, ChurchAndCulture.org.

He is a ranked adjunct professor of theology and culture at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, where he also served as their fourth president. He is the author of more than twenty books that have been translated into ten languages.

Recently, he published an article on the crisis of character facing church leaders. He wrote, "Oh, for a generation of leaders who would pick up the basin and towel in exchange for platform and notoriety." He joins me to talk about the crisis and a better way forward.