284 - Predestination, A Debate (w/ Chris Date and Chip Judd)

While I (Joey) personally find very primitive and archaic the belief in a God-ordained predestination of souls, Chris Date's holding to this position  doesn’t lessen the amount of respect I have for him as a biblical scholar.  Chip, Chris and I discuss and debate the philosophical components of whether people can have real choice while at the same time, God also ordaining that choice they will freely make.  In other words, can God ordain that people have real choice while also ordaining what choice they will make?  Chris thinks so. 

We have plenty of “if I treated my kids the way God does” analogies, talk a bit about whether Jack and Jill had real choice to go up the hill if the author writes it (you'll have to listen) and even ponder marital affairs being “God ordained.”  

Chris Date and Rethinking Hell
http://www.theopologetics.com/
http://www.youtube.com/theopologetics/
https://fuller.academia.edu/ChristopherDate
http://www.rethinkinghell.com/
http://www.youtube.com/rethinkinghell/

Chip Judd's "8-Minute Mind Shift"
https://chipjudd.com/category/mindshift

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