Starting with a conversation on the state of the world, this episode transitions to the topic of dancers retiring during the COVID-19 pandemic without any final performance. Barry shares his experience with a career-ending injury and how the lack of closure with his career affected his ability to mentally transition into the second stage of his career.

Pas de Chát's host Barry Kerollis is an award-winning choreographer, instructor, and dancer with over 13 years experience in the dance world. His career includes directing Alaska Dance Theatre, dancing for Pacific Northwest Ballet, and traveling the country as a nationally-touring freelance artist. He also runs the popular blog, Life of a Freelance Dancer.

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